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#157395 01/24/10 12:03 PM
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Just a couple of notes. Eureka runs a good tournament, which we enjoy. The championship ceremony is great and while it adds to the lateness of the night, it is important to the boys. I know this from listening to my own boys.

The problem, and I know that this has been brought up before but I just wanted to put some numbers to the issue.
Here's some of the numbers I came up with, for yesterday's meet:
*All weight classes, except 103 (it was only an 8-man bracket) had at least one match decided by the 5-match limit.
*Three classes had both 3rd/4th place and 5th/6th place decided by the limit.
*Six of the 13 brackets involved had a double default, 2 of which were 3rd/4th place matches
*Five 3rd/4th place matches were decided by the 5-match limit
*One bracket had the 5th place winner, winning by default over an opponent that had defeated him in the first round.

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A lot of this stems from having 22 teams in attendance at a one-day tournament, 23 if you count the unattached kids who were added. Many of the teams had no where near a full roster, so it is hard to gauge exactly how many teams will bring what weights. I’ve talked to the administration about the problem with the 5 match rule and the only way to solve it is to either reject some teams’ invitations or possibly make a cut off for the amount of wrestlers in each bracket based off winning percentage. However this is only if they want to keep the Eureka tournament as a one day tournament.

The administration is also open to the idea of turning this tournament into a two-day tournament by inviting several more teams. My preference would be that they run it as a pool tournament the 1st day to allow teams better utilization of competition points. This will allow their less skilled wrestlers to have more mat time. Then on the second day take the top one or two wrestlers in each pool and make an 8-man bracket. This is the same format that Eudora uses and it seems to work very well. With less teams using double duels for competition points and switching to more popular dual, pool, or round robin style tournaments it would bring more quality teams who would like to attend in addition to the teams already in attendance.

When I was in grade school this tournament used to host programs like Valley Center, Prairie View, and Mulvane, it could use a few quality 4A programs to help beef up the brackets. They were having to compete against some of the top 321A programs in the mid to late 90s teams like Herington, Caney Valley, Southeast-Saline, and Fredonia. All of which were placing multiple people in the state tournament. In the past few years we’ve even had Louisburg, Hugoton, and Pratt come to the tournament who have all had nice showings at the 4A state tournament.

The tournament ran much longer than it should have because of the 45 minute rule for wrestlers, blood time, injury time, a 20 minute lunch break for the referees and table help, and of course the seeding meeting ran 30 minutes long, but these are all things that will happen at wrestling tournaments. Hopefully, next year all of the problems will be fixed next year with the Eureka Tournament and it will have people in Kansas saying that it is one of the best small school tournaments in the state.


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