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#187336 03/21/11 07:55 PM
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Senior Classic
7:00 pm March 25, 2011 at the Kansas Expo Center
Red-Small Schools (321A and 4A) Blue - Big Schools (5A and 6A)

Small School Coaches:Bill Johnson, Norton and Brad Lies, Andale
Big School Coaches:Mike Church, Wichita Heights and Terry Alley, Andover

112/119 Colt Skillman, Burlington vs. Dane Norris, Manhattan
125 Zach Hoehn, Wellsville vs. Ross Whitmore SMNW
125 Bo Newport, LaCygne-Prairie View vs. Jake Gentzler, Andover Central
130 Troy Bainter, Norton vs. Daniel DeShazer, Wichita Heights
135/140 Kale Newell, Smith Center vs. Courtney Strauss, Abilene
140/145 Sheldon Graves, Rossville vs. Bradley Little, Derby
152 Thomas Rachow, Phillipsburg vs. Chase Sanchez, Emporia
160 Landon Keiswetter, Norton vs. Jake Hattabaugh, Andale
171 Taylor Baird, Pratt vs. Dylan Penka, KMC
171 Spencer Shirk, Norton vs. Tyler Baughman, Lansing
189 Tate Omli, Eli-Saline vs. Armando Alcantara, Turner
189 Zach Anderson, Clay Center vs. Hunter Jameson, Wichita Heights
285 Mathew Holt, Abilene vs. Dillon Salmans, Hoxie

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Isn't both the wrestlers at 160 from small schools? Also 135/140.

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Indeed they are Top Hat. Whats even more crazy is that Lies is going to have to coach against his own guy in Hattabaugh at 160. lol

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So it isn't really 321A-4A vs 5A-6A as billed. As far as Brad coaching against Jake that's not gonna happen.


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7-3 with three toss-ups in favor of Large class.


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No Moeder, Cokeley, Tannenbaum?? 3 of the states best not in this event?




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unbelievable that there are no 5a or 6a guys at 160 that will wrestle Hattabaugh or Keiswetter.
Unbelievable that there are no 135/140 kids from 5a and 6a that will wrestle Strauss or Newell.

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I have it 8 to 5 small school, considering that two weight classes small schools will win since they both kids are small school....6 to 5 small school if we don't count those two weight classes..........

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HWT is also an all small school event!!

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those three matches don't score do they??


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I assume not, but you know how those 5a and 6a guys are, they will try to steal those points from us small school guys...........

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Hi Doug 747. On the #160 6A list. I have Reed WH is a Junior,Wilson LFS is a Sophomore,Eggers,DCHS a Junior,Hill SME, Junior, Euring JCHS is a Junior, and Wagner Hutch, is a Junior. My MHS Jr. Brian Wood (torn ACL)had wrestle all of them except the finalist and I try to follow this wt. class during the season. As the 6A rep I want our guys in the meet. As far as Tannenbaum of Blue Valley North. He was asked to particpate,I went thru the HWC and was informed (schedule conflict). The one and only rule KWCA has is all Senior State Champions are asked first! If they decline then we ask the second place finisher. As far as 5A Coach Charbonneau of Emporia works with the 5A wrestlers and coaches.One year I had 24 bouts and so many guys had turned me down that I tried to get a true East vs. West. That the event was not a classic dual. So I understand your fustration of not seeing some of the Wrestlers you were wanting to watch.I have no control of the Senior who turns me or other reps down. I will admit I was late this year in contacting three seniors in 6A. RMG


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Originally Posted By: ROBERT M. GONZALES
Hi Doug 747. On the #160 6A list. I have Reed WH is a Junior,Wilson LFS is a Sophomore,Eggers,DCHS a Junior,Hill SME, Junior, Euring JCHS is a Junior, and Wagner Hutch, is a Junior. My MHS Jr. Brian Wood (torn ACL)had wrestle all of them except the finalist and I try to follow this wt. class during the season. As the 6A rep I want our guys in the meet. As far as Tannenbaum of Blue Valley North. He was asked to particpate,I went thru the HWC and was informed (schedule conflict). The one and only rule KWCA has is all Senior State Champions are asked first! If they decline then we ask the second place finisher. As far as 5A Coach Charbonneau of Emporia works with the 5A wrestlers and coaches.One year I had 24 bouts and so many guys had turned me down that I tried to get a true East vs. West. That the event was not a classic dual. So I understand your fustration of not seeing some of the Wrestlers you were wanting to watch.I have no control of the Senior who turns me or other reps down. I will admit I was late this year in contacting three seniors in 6A. RMG


The state brackets list Euring and Wagner as seniors.


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That's A shame it will not be wrestled as billed. I hope they have enough red singlets.How will this be scored ?


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Thanks Mr. Wilson, for the update. I have in my score book Euring as a Junior back from the Dec. dual meet. (My mistake). I was almost sure Wagner of Hutchinson was a Junior.Doug 747 was correct on two of the athletes. Sorry Doug 747 for the error. As far as the three matches that are small school, I am happy that we have athletes that are willing to wrestle. This should be a good dual with some great bouts. RMG


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Last year the same thing happened at a few different weights and they just counted the matches as exhibitions. I am not sure if they counted these matches towards the team score or not. It is a shame that more wrestlers won't compete in this event, so it can truly be scored as big vs. small. There are some great match ups and it should be exciting for the fans and a great experience for some of our state's best.


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Kids not wanting to wrestle is not RMG or Coach Charby's fault. I was just hanging it on the big school guys. Maybe I have to go out and just call them chicken to get them to wrestle!! I'm srue there were some small school guys that turned it down also..........

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There is simply more and more post season wrestling opportunities available to them each year. It wasn't that long ago that the Senior Classic was about the only wrestling other than Senior Nationals, prior to FS/GR season. That isn't the case any longer and it has hurt this event. I don't think that is a bad thing, rather it's just the way it is.

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The coaches are not to blame for anything and i do not believe that anyone is blaming coaches. I just wish this was a more sought after event by our athletes. I know that when a kid from our school gets invited they accept it as a challenge and are honored to get to represent their school and community.


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This going to be online? I can catch a few hours of rest and set my alarm if so!


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