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Today at the Rossville Holiday Classic tournament i had the misfortune of coaching my son who suffered a loss to a defensive pin. To say the least i was mortified, i have coached for 6 years and been around the wrestling community for 25 plus years and have never witnesed it. Upon arriving home i fired up the Google and viewed a few YouTube videos. As it would turn out there are only about 4 videos on all of the tube and ALL are of the Senior High or College level. Our Topeka opponent had the same confused look on his face as ours. it was obevious at the midway point of the 3rd round and a score of 9-0 us he had no idea what happened either. I really do not want to be one of those people who just use this forum as a way to vent how the world treated them wrong today, I would like to know other views at the 10 and under defensive pin.
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When teaching certain moves I tell my boys to watch their own backs! It does happen and we also teach certain moves in certain situations to look for a defensive fall! It's better now then let's say, a match that has a bigger meaning! Good lesson to learn at such a young age!!
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It happened to my son, at 12u, at the Atchison tourney when he was up 7-0. I disagreed w/ the call, my son had a choice word or 2 for the ref, he later apoligized. Its a learning experience. I would think the other kid should be looking for the defensive pin before it is called, but I am not a ref, nor am I familiar with the rule book. I would say you should just be glad your son was up 9-0 and hope it is something to laugh about years from now.
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I probably have watched about 6 per year for the last 30 years. Never expose your back to the mat is my philosophy. You see it in crab rides and outside craddles the most.
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Had a kid on the winning side of a defensive pin at subs a couple years ago. The opponent was absolutely stunned. Always teach to take advantage of your opponents exposure of their back. And always be cognisant of where your own back is at. So much better to experience this now than subs,district, or state!
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I have already called a couple this year, not at the kids level, one in high school and one in college.
Alex R. Ryan KSHSAA Official #15616 USAWKS Official #707
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Happens man... Watch your back
To be the man, you got to beat the MAN!!
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I saw a heavy weight match at the Iowa HS finals end in a defensive pin years ago. Kid was stunned. As a ref, you have to call it if it occurs. The rule is clear. But I think most refs take a good long look to make sure its a fall before calling it in that situation.
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My son fell to a defensive pin, at the 6 and under state tourny two years ago.... as a mom, and his coach, it was hard to explain to him. Being new to the sport, I really didn't understand either. The ref was gracious enough to come over and explain it to us, and my son learned a valuable lesson that day.
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