Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School Catholic Boy Wrestlers may have to forfeit...

I understand the situation just fine. I dont care if it was the archbishop who made the rule. STA and SJA must abide by it. The fact that they were allowed to lie and screw two kids out of the right to go to state was wrong.

The SM South kid didn't get "hosed". He beat an inferior opponent in the first round then got smoked by the Turner kid in the semis and by Gooch on the back side. In reality, he got "hosed" by the girl. Gooch and Hensly were going to state no matter what the South kid did. The girl may have taken the South's kid spot.

I think Kali deserves credit for participating with all the attention this has received. Satisfaction or not, she earned the right to participate and trained hard. In my eye's, she stood up for young girls in all sports who just want to compete and have an opportunity.

REALLY? You are going to blame Kali? She showed up to wrestle. She did not manipulate the bracket. STA and SJA are the ones that manipulated the bracket for their benefit.

Bender, it is apparent that I do not understand this, either.

Regardless of the REASON that the young men were unable to wrestle (because of their religious leaders), the fact remains that they, instead of FORFEITING the match, took advantage of an "INJURY" (?) to default. This allowed them to continue to compete by virtue of essentially lying about the "injury".

Not what you would expect from a religion that preaches, among other things, truthfulness.

Bottom line, GIRLS should not compete at this level!

Grade school? Different thing, IMO.

No way the SM South kid should have had to beat Gooch to get to state. Him and Kali should have been wrestling for that spot. Was a injustice to him, her, and the sport. No ifs, ands, or buts it was wrong what happened. But things happen for reasons and if something can be learned from and things changed it will be worth it.

Wondering if Maur Hill of Atchison falls under this leadership? As they have wrestled a few girls this year, including today.

Bottom line Beeson - The STA and SJA kids worked their tails off all year and had outstanding seasons were put in a bad situation today they had no control over. Instead, someone with 12 varsity matches dictated the bracket.

ram, that is where you are wrong. The catholic church (and thereby our catholic schools) dictated the bracket. To say otherwise is nonsense.

No, someone from the church dictated a state ran competition. STA and SJA are allowed to play by a different set of rules than the rest of the state.

Ram - The young lady has no blame what so ever. She worked her butt off all year like everyone else. She followed her directions and gave her best effort. It is an ignorant comment or belief from anyone saying she caused anything. I feel bad for her because of the situation she had no control over either.

I am suprised that no other coaches protested the obvious lie and that the tournament director did not take action.KHSAA is partly to blame for not making sure all rules were followed.

It is sad they had to lie Just like every man/lady on this form has had to do one day or anouther.The main reasion no one said any thing is 1st how can you prove it .2nd it would just hurt the boys.I am betting the boys that got sick probably felt sick any way.

+1 I agree wholeheartedly. KSHSAA should take steps to ensure that this doesn't happen again, including the upcoming state tournament.

If someone from a public school did not want to wrestle a girl, they would have been able to do the exact same thing.

But they did not, STA and SJA did. No hypotheticals. Why can you not admit that allowing them to cheat was wrong?

Then they should be able to do it against male opponents also. Now we are manipulating brackets instead of competing. SLIPPERY SLOPE. How about all wrestlers, wrestle who steps on the mat.

You guys want to blame this on SJA and STA? Get a clue idiots. Parents have been fighting the archdiocese with this rule. Quit pointing fingers at the wrestling programs.

I understand your sentiment, but I think that would be unfair to Gooch and Hensley. Why should they not go to state because of a silly rule? This SMS kid had his chance, and he lost to superior wrestler. I do not think this scenario occurs often enough for girls to be banned from wrestling against boys. There would not be enough to even form a separate sport.

Here is the only CLUE that this IDIOT has...how about if any school can't follow the rules for any reason, they should not have a wrestling team.