Wrestling Talk Forums supported
USA Wrestling Kansas KWCA
Wrestling Talk Forums supported & maintained by USA Wrestling-Kansas
USAW USA Wrestling Kansas
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 4
O
Member
Member
O Offline
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 4
is this legal? im not a coach im just a parent but i always thought refs werent allowed to put there hands on kids unless there is a potentially dangerous move or they didnt hear the whistle? please watch this video of my son wrestling he is in the red and black and tell me why the ref felt the need to grab his arm and pull it down then pin him right after?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II25ojup3HQ

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 270
D
Member
Member
D Offline
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 270
Looks OK to me, it looks like your boy may have had a hold of the headgear or on the face. Not all that uncommon when those situations happen for them to reach up and pull it off. I am not an official so my word is not golden by any means.

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 673
T
Member
Member
T Offline
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 673
They will do it to keep hands off the eyes and mouth to discourage gouging or hooking (even accidental) it is common for them to do so.

I am not a ref either but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night, ok I didn't but want to.


Tracy Peterson
Buhler, KS
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,555
Member
Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 2,555
After watching the video, I can say that the official did the right thing. It looks as if your son is pulling on the other wrestlers headgear. Officials do this in little league matches, middle school matches, and High School matches. Your boys action was illegal, but the official was not going to stop the match and give a point since the other wrestler had a pinning combination. He stops the illegal action, whether it be pulling headgear, gouging the eyes, covering the mouth, or pulling on a singlet. This give the other wrestler the chance to still get the pin. Absolutely nothing wrong with the officials actions.


Unnecessary Roughness is Necessary
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 27
J
Member
Member
J Offline
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 27
Only time I agree with beeson! Haha! Great answer.

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 169
R
Member
Member
R Offline
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 169

And here's the rule if there was not a pin in that situation. The offensive wrestler should get an "extra" near-fall point (so 3 NF ends up being 4NF) and he gets an additional point for the violation (grabbing the headgear).

The rule book does not require stoppage of the match for all illegal holds/actions and the official is allowed to correct such action without stopping the match if possible. This is a very common situation and is almost always handled this way, as others have noticed.


Link Copied to Clipboard
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 286 guests, and 0 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
JTapia, Camden Schroeder, CoachLongSES, Super Admin, HMullin
12,309 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums11
Topics36,119
Posts250,750
Members12,309
Most Online1,305
Mar 12th, 2025
Top Posters
usawks1 8,595
smokeycabin 6,248
Aaron Sweazy 5,262
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0
(Release build 20240826)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 8.3.26 Page Time: 0.070s Queries: 26 (0.062s) Memory: 3.1465 MB (Peak: 3.7112 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2025-10-11 11:10:33 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS