Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School REGIONAL

Coaches, tell me what you think of this idea. We have the rule that states in order to wrestle the lower weight in the regional tournament, you have to have half of your weigh-ins at that weight. I understand this rule, but my question is should we not have something that prevents a kid from moving up at the last second at the Regional seeding meeting. What about requiring the regional entries to have half of their matches at the weight that they are going to wrestle. This would prevent kids from moving up the last week just because it might be an easier weight class. What I have seen happen is a kid might wrestle a tournament late in the season at a higher weight, may end up winning the tournament, then not wrestle until the regional. Thus allowing them to be undefeated at the weight that they are going to wrestle in in the regional. Maybe this is a rare occurrence, but is it right to punish a guy who might have wrestled 30 matches at that weight throught the year, but has a .500 record. Just a question?

I don't know about a rule Chad, but I think it's another arguement for why individuals' records should not be a top priority at seeding meetings. I feel like it should be the last separator and definately not the first. You just don't know who people have wrestled throughout the year. Basing seeding upon record can sometimes give teams who may not have as tough a schedule an advantage as well as an individual moving up or down a weight.

The rule we have now is a "safety" rule to prevent kids from sucking down to a weight to certify then not wrestle that low again until they suck down again at regionals.
I understand the problems that a kid moving up late can cause at the seeding meeting, but in some regionals it is best to move a kid up to give him a chance to get to state. Some of our weights at the Goodland Regional could see a lot of good kids stay home (even ones who would place at state), so I would not want to see a rule that prevents a coach from moving a kid up to get him through.
I can see your point, but there are always seeding probems that we can't avoid like a kid with only a few matches that is good but has been injured. I say as coaches we need to put some weight into overall record and if a kid is .500 overall, but 5-0 at his regional weight, he should not be put on the bracket like an undefeated kid. Record is a lower criteria anyway and we use head to head,commons, and quality wins more, which the kid that moves up late will have trouble with. If a guy who moved up late has no head to head or commons and just a decent overall record, the coaches need to give the spots on the bracket to the wrestlers who have been there all year and have some commons over someone or a head to head over someone. But no KSHSAA rule is needed in my opinion.

Just some thoughts???

C Fuller, you must be talking about Chase Look from Stockton. He wrestled in my brothers weight class at 189, and bumped up to 215 for regionals. The thing I don't get is that he was seeded 2nd at regionals, and he only wrestled one tournament at that weight. I agree the rule should be changed.