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As far as Pyle Vs. Nay, I would say more than likely team points.
Putting undefeated wrestlers together might look good on paper but I'm sure the committee knows who the best wrestlers are.
My opinion, it takes away from this event if you don't match up the best wrestlers.
Thats what we all come out to see (at least on the Missouri side)
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What time does this get started tonight at KCCC?
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Its not over yet...
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New prediction after line-up change:
I have MO up 28-18 with 4 toss-ups. That is even giving MO 12 points for 215/285. I think Payne has a chance to save KS points. The toss-ups are 119, 135, 171 and 189. If KS gets 3 of those 4 and Miller or Payne can hang in there, it could be the start of a streak for Kansas.
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112 - 6-0
119 - ?
125 - 6-6
130 - 9-6
135 - ?
140 - 9-9
145 - 9-12
145 - 9-16
145 - 12-16
152 - 15-16
160 - 18-16
171 - ?
189 - ?
215 - 18-22
285 - 18-28
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In the 4 toss-ups that are listed above, Missouri has the upper hand in weight on 3 of the 4.
119 - Hogan was the 125 state champ.
135 - Neske got beat by Joiner 12-5 in the 140 finals.
189 - Shippy was the 215 state champ. Can he get to 196 with no problem?????
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Keep in mind, Corey Carr (130) is a 2x state champ and lost to O'Donnell in the state finals 5-4....and Kendall Burke (160) is a 2x state champ.
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In the 4 toss-ups that are listed above, Missouri has the upper hand in weight on 3 of the 4.
189 - Shippy was the 215 state champ. Can he get to 196 with no problem?????
Shippy was a small-ish 215 lbr. His school had a good 189, and went up for team purposes.
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Are you suggesting Bradley will pin Payne? Uh oh, watch out for the wrath of Caleb..... I would think you'd see a pin @ 215 for MO b/4 one at HWT....
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They also weighed in last night so with them getting 7 lbs, and having a day to refuel, I'm sure the kids will be big.
Shippy is STRONG STRONG STRONG
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Are you suggesting Bradley will pin Payne? Uh oh, watch out for the wrath of Caleb..... I would think you'd see a pin @ 215 for MO b/4 one at HWT.... I totally agree that 215 is much more likely to hurt KS. If Payne hangs with Bradley, I'll be high fiving half of the gym!
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112 Paulie Hansen 37-0 1st KC Turner Matt Allen 35-11 SQ Blue Springs South ...6-0
119 Marcus Walker 30-2 2nd KC Schlagle Cody Hogan 35-2 1st Richmond ...6-3
130 Jordan Miller Ottawa Scotty O'Donnell 37-4 1st Oak Park ...6-7
130 Adam Almaguer 37-1 1st Olathe North Corey Carr 44-4 2nd Park Hill ...6-10
135 Kyle Buehler 38-3 2nd Lansing Nathan Neske 48-4 2nd Lee's Summit ...9-10
140 Mark Millstead 40-4 3rd St. Thomas Aquinas Aaron Senzee 45-1 1st Kearney ...9-13
145 Lance Serbousek 39-4 3rd Blue Valley NW Jake Hunter 45-0 1st Harrisonville ...9-16
145 Kyle Hudgins 42-4 4th Spring Hill Shane Nay 29-5 1st Oak Park ...9-21
145 Jason Pyle 38-0 1st Sabetha Kenzie McClain 32-0 1st Plattsburg ...12-21
152 Dakota Hall 40-4 4th Ft. Scott Sam Thielen 45-10 5th Lee's Summit North ...15-21
160 Casey Curran 37-2 1st Blue Valley North Kendall Burke 43-5 3rd Ray Pec ...15-24
171 R.J. Nill 45-5 2nd St. Thomas Aquinas Kyle Campbell 42-5 2nd Lee's Summit ... 18-24
189 Jed Mamie 46-2 3rd St. Thomas Aquinas Steele Shippy 34-2 1st Odessa ... 18-27
215 Mike Hammer 42-6 5th St. Thomas Aquinas Deron Winn 46-0 1st Liberty ... 18-32
285 Joe Payne 39-5 3rd Paola Dom Bradley 50-1 1st Blue Springs ...18-36
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That is probably close. If KS won at 160, it would still be 21-33. Hudgins staying close to Nay would make it 21-31. Almauger beating Carr would tighten it up to 24-28. Walker winning at 119 puts KS back on top. A lot of what if's....
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does anyone know how much this is going to cost
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It seems like $7 or so. I'm really looking forward to this great event!
Are you making a POSITIVE difference in the life of kids?
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$8 pre-pay $10 at the door
Its not over yet...
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KANSAS WINS 27-26
Missouri had a bunch of very talented studs... But Kansas won 8 matches to Missouri 6 and secured the victory!!!
Its not over yet...
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Great win tonight boys. All I heard for the past year was how good this Missouri team is supposed to be. They were good, but we were better. You guys made it alot easier to be a Kansan living in Missouri tonight. Thank you for that.
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It was 8-7 in matches.
KANSAS 27 MISSOURI 26
112 - Hansen (KS) WBF Allen
119 - Hogan (MO) dec Walker 7-3
125 - O'Donnell (MO) tech fall Miller 19-4
130 - Carr (MO) dec Almaguer 6-2
135 - Buehler (KS) dec. Neske 6-2
140 - Senzee (MO) dec Millstead 4-3
145 - Serbousek (KS) dec. Hunter 2-1 ot
145 - Nay (MO) dec. Hudgins 14-7
145 - Pyle (KS) dec. McClain 8-6 ot
152 - Hall (KS) dec. Thielin 8-1
160 - Curren (KS) dec Burke 6-4
171 - Nill (KS) dec Campbell 6-1
189 - Mamie (KS) dec Shippy 5-2
215 - Winn (MO) WBF Hammer
285 - Bradley (MO) dec Payne 5-0
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Where is gutwrench when you need him?
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Tonight was awesome. Good job Kansas.
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