Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion Kids Folkstyle 6&U weight classes

What are all the 6&U weight classes? 37,40,43...etc. Maybe it starts at 34...I don't know. I can't find it on this site. Thanks!

I will ask our pres. to post them if you want to know about Ottawas 6&u.

In the past 37 has been the lowest weight statewide. I did notice the tourney in Topeka will have 34. With that lower weight added should we have a 4U division.

That's funny right there I don't care who you are.

No need............I can go to last years 6&u results and get it. Never even crossed my mind until now. Thanks anyways

kids division link under weight groups (local & state) there isn't a 6&u....just what I've copied. Why isn't the 6&u recognized there?

8 & under:
40, 43, 46, 49, 52, 55, 58, 61, 64, 67, 70, 73, 76, 80, 88, 95, 110, 125

9 & 10:
52, 55, 58, 61, 64, 67, 70, 73, 76, 79, 82, 85, 90, 95, 100, 110, 120, 130, 150, 170

11 & 12:
60, 64, 68, 72, 76, 80, 84, 88, 92, 96, 100, 105, 110, 115, 120, 130, 140, 150, 165, 190, 215, 240

13 & 14:
70, 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, 105, 110, 115, 120, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 150, 155, 160, 165, 175, 205, 235, 265

15 & 16:
95, 100, 105, 110, 115, 120, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 150, 155, 160, 165, 175, 185, 215, 245, 275


These are the current weight classes, as determined by the State Body Meeting on November 1995, and modified September 1999. Age classifications were changed November, 1996.

The 6U division is not an official age division. Those established by the State Body are:
8&Under, 9&10, 11&12, 13&14, and 15&16

That is why this division is not represented in the Kansas State Championship Series. The weight classifications in the “6&Under” division have typically followed those of the “8&Under” division. The exception is that there are 1 or 2 additional weights added to the bottom end to account for the weight difference of the younger and lighter wrestlers. There are two things that go into determining the starting weight class in any age division. The first is the natural grouping of kids and the second is to account for the percentage of body weight advantage.

For "6&Under" the most common starting weight has been 37#; however the most crowded weights of this division are between 37# and 46# do to the natural grouping of kids. Some tournaments have chosen to allow a 34# class to account for the natural grouping of these lightest wrestlers. Also,a 32# wrestler competing at 37# is giving up 13.5% of their body weight. This would equivalent to a 133# wrestler competing in the 150# weight class.

On a side note, the bottom end weight classes in the established divisions are recommended by the executive board and approved by our state body...they are what they are and all sanctioned tournaments have to follow the guidelines. The division of weight classes is debatable and there are some recommended changes proposed by the executive board that will be considered at this years State Body Meeting in Salina. These proposed changes are tied to historical analysis.

Rule 4-4-2 gives the guidelines for the “maximum” weight difference between two wrestlers. For the 9&10 division that is 20#. The bottom weight recognized in the 9&10 division is 52# and the top end is 170#. The corresponding percentage of body weights for the top and bottom end is 38.5% at the bottom end and 12% at the top end of the scale.

Rule 4-4-2 No wrestler will be permitted to wrestle another person with a weight spread
exceeding the following weights:

8 & Under 15 Pounds
9 & 10 20 Pounds
11 & 12 25 Pounds
13 & 14 30 Pounds
15 & 16 35 Pounds

When tournaments “reserve the right to combine weight classes” they should take into account the percentage of body weight for the classes they are combining. This point is outside the bounds of your original question but it is important to consider.

The weight classes are just as you stated "guidelines" but the only time a sanctioned tournament would "have to" follow those guidelines is for qualfying tournaments. For a sanctioned invitational the host could feel free to create entirely new weight groups or combine weight classes as is commonly done.

Kindly review the Kansas Kids Constitution.

SECTION III: TOURNAMENT OPERATIONS

PART A – SANCTIONED FOLKSTYLE TOURNAMENTS
1. All USAWA-Kansas Kids sanctioned tournaments must be sanctioned by USA Wrestling and be on file with the USAW-Kansas Chairman at least thirty (30) days prior to the tournament.

Rule 4-4-1
Competition shall be in the following age and weight classes. Age determination shall be as of midnight, August 31 for that competitive year. For example, a child with a birthday on August 31, 1995 will wrestle as an eleven-year-old during the 2006/07 season. A child born on September 1, 1995 will wrestle as a ten-year-old during the 2006/07 season. Any USAWA-Kansas Kids club may challenge the age of any wrestler during weigh-in at a sanctioned tournament. The wrestler or the wrestler's club must, within one week, provide a birth certificate or similarly reliable verification that the wrestler's age stated on his/her membership card is accurate.

8 & Under
40, 43, 46, 49, 52, 55, 58, 61, 64, 67, 70, 73, 76, 80, 88, 95, 110, 125.

9 & 10
52, 55, 58, 61, 64, 67, 70, 73, 76, 79, 82, 85, 90, 95, 100, 110, 120, 130, 150, 170.

11 & 12
60, 64, 68, 72, 76, 80, 84, 88, 92, 96, 100, 105, 110, 115, 120, 130, 140, 150, 165, 190, 215, 240.

13 & 14
70, 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, 105 110, 115, 120, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 150, 155, 160, 165, 175, 205, 235, 265.

15 & 16
95, 100, 105, 110, 115, 120, 125, 130, 135, 140, 145, 150, 155, 160, 165, 175, 185, 215, 245, 275.

Additional and/or combined age and weight classes can be used at the option of the host tournament director.

I stand by what I wrote! The weight classes have no meaning as long as combinations are allowed.

"On a side note, the bottom end weight classes in the established divisions are recommended by the executive board and approved by our state body...they are what they are and all sanctioned tournaments should follow the guidelines. The division of weight classes is debatable and there are some recommended changes proposed by the executive board that will be considered at this years State Body Meeting in Salina. These proposed changes are tied to historical analysis."

Point taken sportsfan02. The main objective of the side note above was to point out the percentage of body weight difference which exists between the lighter side of any age division and the top when combining weights.

However, your comments bring up an interesting point. It is probably acceptable by the written rule to shift weight classes at sanctioned events...albeit a grey area in the rule. But it is unethical to do so without full disclosure and when done improperly it often leads to a percentage of body weight advantage for heavier wrestlers in the adjusted class. If the established weights are 110, 120, 130, 140...it would be acceptable to combine 110 and 120 to naturally group kids. But if you decide to wrestle your tournament with 113, 123, 133, 143 without prior notice it often leads to certain kids gaining an advantage over kids who have been maintaining the established weight classifications. I believe this practice is borderline unethical, even if it was done with no bad intentions in mind. At the very least if the allowances given exceed 1# and/or your tournament has an adjusted weight class from the onset, you should post those allowances and/or adjustments on the event flier.

I think most tournament directors attempt to adhere to the guidelines regarding weight classes. However, I would bet there are tournaments on any given weekend violating the maximum weight allowance when combining weight groups.
Something interesting has come to my attention while reading that area of the constitution though. That being, even the suggestion of a 6U age group could be considered to be unconstitutional since all of the allowable age groups are directly addressed. The result could be, that if a tournament even offers a 6U age division at a tournament their tournament charter could be ruled null and void. The exception could be that the lowest age group recognized is in fact an 8 AND under, however this might be something we need to address in constitution and bylaw changes.

I believe our bylaws are fine as written on the issue you bring up. By rule, the lowest recognized division is “8&Under”. However, the “6&Under” group is just a subset of the greater “8&Under” division. That being said doesn’t end the debate of whether the “6&Under” group deserves its own division recognized by our bylaws. However, the way we are now operating falls inside the bounds of our current bylaws.

While I tend to agree with you about the loop-hole in the bylaws, I'm not so sure an impartial party would agree if for instance a 6U competitor ever sustained a serious injury and our insurance was looking for their own loop-hole.

…so noted. However, in all actuality it is no different IMO than wrestling an A and B bracket. ...or an Open and Novice bracket at tournaments. For the most part, the sanctioning rules and bylaws are in place to protect the athlete. IMO, breaking a division into two subsets should be OK by rule.