Would the regionals be based on who someone say's is the top 6 or 8 wrestlers making sure that they are split up somehow equal so that someone didn't complain that the top 6 was at the same regionals? And would this be done for each weight, so that the so called top two meet at State Finals in each weight? Also taking into consideration that not every school has the #1 or #2 top wranked wrestler at every weight on their roster.
**This has nothing to do with rankings. KSHSAA would still determine the regional teams. All this is trying to accomplish is getting the two kids that finish in the top two at their regionals on opposite sides of the bracket and the two regional champions on opposite sides. That's it. It's not perfect.
Why not do a regional / than a sub-state / than state, than we could even maybe combine 6a and 5a to have the true big school state champion. Than the chances of someone getting to enjoy the atomsphere of a state tournement with a loosing record would be done from the stands.
[b]**Are you trying to stay on subject? If you want to combine 5 & 6A, I respect that. I've even proposed a way of combining classes to more evenly distribute the number of teams in each class. This is not a big class/small class debate, however. That's been exhausted! Every class has this issue. I just don't have a good solution for the classes with 64+ teams. I think Coach Alley's idea may be best suited for this.b]
Or maybe we could just do away with the State Meet all together and just award metals to the top 6 based on the rankings. Than what would we say to the kid who didn't get ranked but has never lost to anyone that wasn't ranked, who has beaten kids who are ranked, beat guys who did place high in state last year, and has even beat some who are in the overall rankings. And their only 3 losses in the last month has come at the hands of same wrestler who is ranked #1 overall and chances are this person is also one of the top 3 wrestlers in the state at any weight? Do we say sorry?[/b][/b][/b]
***Sounds like you have some other issues that go beyond splitting up the top two wrestlers. Rankings mean nothing in this idea. Nothing.
Not trying to start anything here it just every year its the same thing. Bad selection for state, bad seating, the #1 and #2 kid wrestled in the first round. With the number of wrestlers in every class it would be almost impossible to get everyone of them right.
[b]***You're right, it will be impossible to get everything right. A great kid can get "caught" or be injured or sick or whatever and show the imperfection of this idea. However, we could try to end the random chance that the two best kids (again, based on regional placing) being put on the same side of the state bracket. Every year, in every class, people would like to see the best two wrestlers (based on regional performances, still not perfect) to end up having a chance to meet in the finals. They just want a chance, not a guarantee. As a coach, I didn't put much thought into this. There was a time or two that I thought we might get a guy in the finals if things were different, but my job was to make sure they did their best no matter what side of the bracket they were on. As a fan, it's not good to see a finals match, knowing that the best pairing for that bracket happened in the semis.
With no solution of your own, I assume that you're happy with the current system. I respect, but disagree, with your take on it.
Last edited by Ryan Jilka; 02/18/08 01:00 AM.
