ok these are the reasons why I have heard why not to have a 6 and under. it will burn them out. if a kid is going to burn out he is going to burn out. the other is not enough room. those are really the only 2 reasons I have heard. oh yeah and the one that I think is really funny is its for the dads and moms and not for the kids. now I dont care if my kid wins or loses. I just want him to have an equal chance. So I really dont care anymore if its part of the actual state or a stand alone. Like I said I would be ok with having it before highschool state and either make it a qualifier one week and state the next or have it over an entire weekend if we keep it the way Ottawa does it now. But to have a kid wrestle 8 or 9 times in a day may be a little much for the kids, parents, grand parents, coaches, directors ect. I really think they do deserve it and we that think that need to just stop wasting our time with those that oppose it and make it happen. I really think Ottawa does a good job but could make it better and bigger. I do feel for those down in the SW corner to have to drive that far and make it back to work on Monday. Wichita would seem to be the prime location but how do you justify taking it from Ottawa. Lots of if this and if that. Maybe Ottawa just needs to make this happen but locate it at the coliseum.