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I think I have a solution to this issue. Vince and the Chief in a grudge match at a small high school venue this fall, say the Johnson County Classic, as an exhibition match. Just don't make us watch you guys in singlets- shorts and t-shirts is fine.
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For any of you that have enjoyed (or been annoyed) by the exchange between Vince and I.....
We are friends and are just having a side conversation on the wrong thread. No hard feelings, just talking freely! What Eric has said here is absolutely correct. I apologize to Eric that I took this so personally. I do believe that 24/7 has made an excellent observation about me and I will now honor 24/7's request for me to give it a break.
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I think I have a solution to this issue. Vince and the Chief in a grudge match at a small high school venue this fall, say the Johnson County Classic, as an exhibition match. Just don't make us watch you guys in singlets- shorts and t-shirts is fine. The thought of me in a singlet would be pretty amusing. I am even getting a good laugh on that one as I am sure are those who know me. Oh in case anyone wants to make a prediction on the outcome of such an exhibition match, believe me Chief would turn me into a pretzel in no time at all. I could not even claim any SM East bias if he were to predict it.
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No predictions on that one. I would make a request for 30 second periods though.
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... whew, the vision of either of you in a singlet was just too much to bare ... as was this exchange of posts!
Are you making a POSITIVE difference in the life of kids?
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It was entirely my fault, Randy, not Eric's. I should have discussed this matter with him in private from the beginning. I acted like a spoiled ugly sports parent. I apologize to you and everyone else who rightfully might have found my posts on this topic boorish.
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how about carlson from hiawatha that was 35 and 3 going into the 4a state tournament at 160 and was not pinned all year and cole Geisen from Holton at 171 both these kids should do great this year and will be fun to watch.
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i believe hanel pinned carlson at marysville and went on to win 123a state at 160
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... whew, the vision of either of you in a singlet was just too much to bare ... as was this exchange of posts! Easy Randy. I've lost 20 pounds on my way to 80 pounds by January. By then, a black high cut singlet my just fit me. Now for you..... that might take a lot more work. 
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he beat carlson at Marysville but did not pin him. those two boys have been freinds for years. Carlson went to kids state in the kids wrestling program when carlson was in his first year of wrestling at eight and they ment in the finals and carlson lost to him then to. Hanel is one of the better wrestler at that weight but I think he will tell you carlson is to,
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yes you are correct after posting i looked at the match it actually was 8-2 and yes carlson is a good wrestler and it has been a long career of respect for both
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