I couldn't agree more with these top five dumb moves especially reaching back. It is a dreadful habit that the youngest have great success with, and keep doing it because of that success; it took me a couple of years with each of my sons to finnaly break that habit, along with the help of other wrestlers that made them see the light. However, I do see a seperate form of wrestling that creeps in on sound fundamentals of folkstyle, that beeing the freestyle, where you see and often encourage some of the moves we don't like in folkstyle. I don't know! can a kid get the best of both worlds and look for all options? What is a whole wrestler, and what should they be doing to prepare for a colligiant run. Basics are the bread and butter, suprise when you need it, sure helps against a familiar foe.