did someone say lengthy. i was there at 7am and didnt leave until after 7:00pm. but boy it sure makes the suds go down good. i like the split format and for the love of coaching i would do it again from 7 to 7. i even coached kids that i had no idea what their names were. i only practice with our open kids but helped out with the novice and loved it. my boy wrestled 4 times and i only got to watch one of his matches. but overall the split format is good.