Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School 2008-09 All-Class Ranking

Sparr from Rose Hill

hold on at 112 didn't callahan beat kenny but then ruiz beat callahan and kenny beat ruiz so jus a question but wat gave kenny the number one spot

Ruiz has the latest win and it becomes criteria between Isaac and Kenny.

How does taylor fit into the picture?You have him ranked above Reed yet in 4A Reed is ranked #3 but Taylor is not. My other question is Reeds only loss against a Kansas wrestler is against Dalton Miller what criteria do you use to compute that the following are ranked ahead of him.
1. Kenneth Ornelas - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Isaac Ruiz - 11 - JC - 6A
3. Alan Callahan - 12 - BAL - 4A
4. Taylor Moeder - 10 - SJA - 4A

Again I believe outside of Dalton Miller beating Reed the only other loss he has this year is to a wrestler from Catoosa.
So, I might be wrong but does #1, #3, #4 really rank above Reed. Then you have to Throw Dalton Miller into the mix.
That is just might thought on 112.

Steve Kyler is #1 for sure of course I am partial lol He is my kids idol and is an awesome person Glad I can know him

I don't think Reed has wrestled anyone from Catoosa this year. I did move Dalton up as he's been on a roll since moving down to 112. Those top 4 are solid in those positions. Moeder has only lost to Callahan at 112. In my opinion, Taylor is clearly better than Reed.

Ok I'm new to this ranking thing and trying to figure out why Aspen Kmiec 103 is ranked 3rd in 5A but is not ranked in overall. I would think he would be somewhere considering he beat Seybold who is ranked overall. Is there somewhere I can find info on how rankings are established

I know that Aspen is very tough, but taking the season as a whole it's hard to rank him higher in All-Class. Help me out with criteria vs. any of the others ranked ahead of him. The issue with the Seybold win, puts me in a bind after Seybold pinned Pursel. I can't rank Aspen ahead of Pursel. I saw where Aspen lost to Cole 13-0 and got pinned by Goepfert from Marysville. Is that right? To be clear, the KWCA class rankings are totally separate from my All-Class rankings.

Im not saying he should be Im trying to understand how it all works. This is only our 4th year in wrestling and I'm trying to figure it out. In fact until I learned about him being ranked by the KWCA and going to the website I didn't know that there were any other type of rankings. I thank you for the compliment on his toughness and think I will see his name on your list by the time his High School career is over. I'm sure when he finds out he isn't on it a mission will be established.

Eric, My bad I misread the results he lost to Nick Herrmann Tascosa Tx. Dalton is a Junior not a sophomore.

I'm curious as to why Furches is at #2. I don't doubt his ability, but it seems that he hasn't had enough of the quality matches to be ranked above that solid field.

Furches has plenty of quality matches to merit his ranking.

SPARR over furches in the semis. 5-1.

That's why Sparr is 1 and Nathan is 2.

I was beginning to think it's because he's a better scrabble player.

From this year? Enlighten me please, I am unaware.

Nathan Furches has never lost to anyone ranked below him at that weight. Dropping him lower in the rankings at that weight can't be justified. Do you have any criteria against him?

at what weight did sparr beat him saturday?

119lbs at the Clearwater Invitational

*KEEP THE PM'S COMING WITH CRITERIA. I APPRECIATE THE HELP!


2008-09 All-Class Ranking:

TEAMS - All-Class:

1. Goddard - 6A
2. Emporia - 5A
3. Colby - 4A
4. Clay Center - 4A
5. Liberal - 5A
6. Wichita Heights - 6A
7. Derby - 6A
8. Bishop Carroll - 5A
9. Smith Center - 321A
10. Lansing - 5A


103
1. Colby Watters - 9 - ARK - 5A
2. Roger Windham - 12 - DB - 6A
3. Luke Cole - 12 - AB - 4A
4. Aaron Seybold - 9 - PT - 5A
5. Bo Pursel - 9 - LS - 5A
6. Austin Hood - 9 - LOU - 4A
7. Konner Kriss - 9 - COL - 4A
8. Caleb Thomas - 9 - AC - 5A
9. Chris Ceman - 11 - PH - 321A
10. Colby Witten - 9 - MZ - 6A


112
1. Kenneth Ornelas - 12 - CH - 4A
2. Isaac Ruiz - 11 - JC - 6A
3. Alan Callahan - 12 - BAL - 4A
4. Taylor Moeder - 10 - SJA - 4A
5. Dalton Miller - 11 - WC - 6A
6. Nathan Reed - 11 - CB - 4A
7. Adrian Salas - 11 - LB - 5A
8. Dalton Davis - 10 - LA - 321A
9. Dane Norris - 10 - MH - 6A
10. Caleb Seaton - 10 - BS - 5A


119
1. Zac Sparr - 12 - RH - 4A
2. Nathan Furches - 12 - CL - 4A
3. Jake Gentzler - 11 - AC - 4A
4. Jeff Vesta - 12 - MH - 6A
5. Garrett Jones - 11 - ARK - 5A
6. Tyler Stokes - 12 - GE - 5A
7. Dondre Davis - 12 - WH - 6A
8. Logan Singular - 10 - CC - 4A
9. Blaine Smith - 11 - SS - 5A
10. Dan Weigel - 12 - PL - 321A


125
1. Chase Nitcher - 11 - VC - 5A
2. Daniel DeShazer - 10 - WH - 6A
3. Chaz Lawrence - 12 - OS - 6A
4. Zach Tanenbaum - 10 - BVN - 6A
5. Justin Rose - 12 - EMP - 5A
6. Derek Weller - 11 - PI - 4A
7. Symon Seaton - 10 - BL - 4A
8. Jace Campbell - OA - 11 - 321A
9. Dylan Penka - 10 - BC - 5A
10. Alex Bontz - 9 - WI - 4A


130
1. Trent Cox - 12 - MZ - 6A
2. Ryne Cokeley - 10 - SJA - 4A
3. Colt Rogers - 11 - SC - 321A
4. Spencer Blew - 10 - LS - 5A
5. Kash Biddle - 11 - ARK - 5A
6. Rylan Dalke - 12 - NT - 5A
7. Zach Peters - 11 - AG - 4A
8. Nick Schwager - 11 - GB - 5A
9. Aaron Geist - 12 - OS - 321A
10. Victor Cruz - 12 - LB - 5A


135
1. C.J. Napier - 12 - CO - 4A
2. Kendric Maple - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Bryce Hood - 11 - LOU - 4A
4. Danny Floyd - 11 - OS - 321A
5. Tyler Anderson - 11 - CC - 4A
6. Sal Tovar - 12 - EMP - 5A
7. Cade Hewitt - 12 - BE - 321A
8. Ricky Creek - 12 - MRV - 321A
9. Tanner Weber - 12 - WE - 321A
10. James Medlin - 12 - HS - 4A


140
1. Joey Dozier - 11 - GC - 6A
2. Parker Madl - 11 - BV - 6A
3. Dustin Zahorsky - 12 - SL - 321A
4. Cade Blair - 11 - VC - 5A
5. Cameron Jesseph - 12 - CH - 4A
6. Cody Shavlik - 11 - DB - 6A
7. Jesse Gantz - 12 - ST - 321A
8. Codie Bontz - 11 - WI - 4A
9. Linwood Peoples - 12 - BVNW - 6A
10. Zack Bainter - 12 - NO - 321A


145
1. Mitchell Means - 12 - GD - 6A
2. Cas Spangler - 12 - BE - 321A
3. Colby Crank - 12 - HT - 5A
4. Cole Zoglman - 12 - GP - 321A
5. Kyle McGoldrick - 11 - VC - 5A
6. Tyler Davis - 11 - MCP - 5A
7. Trevor Rempe - 12 - SC - 321A
8. Jake Walker - 11 - STA - 5A
9. Josh Rodriguez - 11 - UL - 4A
10. Jake Hattabaugh - 10 - AN - 4A


152
1. Chris Watson - 12 - AC - 5A
2. Ryan Houlden - 12 - GD - 6A
3. Jordan Brown - 12 - PT - 5A
4. Nathan Sommer - 12 - PV - 4A
5. Tyler Sutherland - 12 - LB - 5A
6. Todd Curtis - 11 - GE - 5A
7. David Lalo - 12 - OE - 6A
8. Corey Engstrom - 11 - HOI - 321A
9. Derek Newell - 12 - UL - 4A
10. Reece Wright-Conklin - 9 - LAW - 6A


160
1. Tyler Caldwell - 12 - GD - 6A
2. Kyle Detmer - 12 - BC - 5A
3. Benny Armstrong - 11 - AN - 4A
4. Travis Rempe - 12 - SC - 321A
5. Ryan Wuthnow - 11 - AB - 4A
6. Chaston Hoeme - 12 - SC - 4A
7. Tyler Baughman - 10 - LS - 5A
8. Jess Lemon - 12 - CH - 4A
9. Ethan Mumaw - 10 - JW - 4A
10. Camron Leupold - 10 - HIA - 4A


171
1. Breck Arnberger - 12 - CB - 4A
2. Chase Nelson - 12 - WH - 6A
3. Alex Feldkamp - 12 - DB - 6A
4. Noel Richardson - 12 - CH - 4A
5. Tyler Hasenbank - 12 - CON - 4A
6. Jake Price - 12 - CV - 4A
7. Jonathan Truman - 11 - KMC - 5A
8. Greg Curtis - 12 - GE - 5A
9. Cole Geisen - 12 - HOL - 4A
10. Dallas Elliott - 12 - GD - 6A


189
1. Boaz Beard - 12 - GD - 6A
2. Mark Kolmer - 11 - EMP - 5A
3. Joel Marrs - 12 - CC - 4A
4. Aron Elsen - 12 - GB - 5A
5. Nate Davis - 12 - LB - 5A
6. Luke Hirschler - 12 - BC - 5A
7. Treat Bugbee - 12 - CB - 4A
8. Darnell Bortz - 12 - PRT - 4A
9. Nathan Wessell - 10 - LS - 5A
10. Ryan Revoir - 12 - OE - 6A


215
1. Tanner Kriss - CB - 4A
2. Kyle Caylor - 11 - WNW - 6A
3. Steven Kyler - 12 - EL - 321A
4. Jacob Nowak - 12 - STA - 5A
5. Jake Woten - 12 - OE - 6A
6. Howard Johnson - 12 - GB - 5A
7. Josh Hicks - 11 - GD - 6A
8. Jake Cole - 12 - BC - 5A
9. Michael Patenaude - 12 - CC - 4A
10. Kendall Pierce - 12 - CIR - 4A


285
1. B.J. Finney - 11 - AN - 4A
2. Brock Heithaus - 11 - WNW - 6A
3. Lucas Vincent - 11 - ON - 6A
4. Lorenzo Serna - 12 - EMP - 5A
5. Kyle Westmoreland - 12 - DB - 6A
6. Tony Marquez - 12 - BC - 5A
7. J.J. Rice - 11 - PH - 321A
8. Ross Addison - 12 - CI - 321A
9. Ricky Gomez - 12 - LB - 5A
10. Michael Starnes - 12 - AC - 5A