Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion Kids Folkstyle Chewing Tobacco at Tournaments!!

Good Lord, give a rest a dip of chew isn't that big of deal....There are alot of other issues going on in a day than chewing......For instance sportmanship, saw a match today 2 good kids wrestled, after the match the looser popped the winner in the face, Why is it okay for certain (CLUB!!!) to get away with it, without any consiqunces? Just a question, looking for decent answer

I bet we can all guess the club!

Yes, I agree with all. I smoke and I do my best to keep too acouple and I walk away from all doors, most the time I walk out to my truck. We are adults and we are going to smoke. This is not the answer but they need a butt can outside away from doors and they wouldn't have Butts on the ground after. If I can't smoke inside then they shouldn't be able to Chew either.

What about the chewing tobacco that doesn't contain nicotine. I have a friend who chews this, to break himself of skoal. Is this alright at wrestling tournaments? I'm not trying to be a smarta** either, just wanting to know peoples opinion on this.

I hate chewing gum worse, kids leave it on the bleachers, terrible. It doesn't contain tobacco - its legal - will Jeff have to look at the can to see what it is. If you have thrown away the can are you out, or will your word be acceptable. And, after watching some ref's today, don't you think they should really stay focused on the action on the mat!!!!!!!! As if we all do not have important things to deal with.

Sure I got it but what about all the other violations that are happening at EVERY turny??? If you are going to teach the straight and narrow live by the arrow!! what I am getting at is double standards. We should all be striving for to fallow the rule but not blindly.

John,

Dont know if this is a slam at me or what, but...

For the record.

I will point out to a referee any coach who is using tobacco at a kids wrestling tournament. No, I will not go out of my way to identify these coaches, but if you are in my vicinity or coaching against me and are using chew, I will make it known.

I have done so the last 2 days at Pittsburg and at St. James. To the young referees credit at St. James who told the offender to leave I applaud your knowledge of the RULEBOOK. To the referee the day before, who came up to me later and admitted that he made a mistake by not removing the coaches, I know you were in a tough spot, amongst friends.

UNTIL the referees begin to take control of this situation it will continue to happen. There is no need for it in our sport and it is a terrible example to set for young athletes who look up to their coaches.

For coaches who get upset with "me" regarding this issue and have the desire to belittle me in front of all involved. I am a grown man and will listen to your words as long as there is no profanity used.

I for one do consider this a very important topic and I will not back down.

I will continue to point out those I run across at these kids tournaments. Even (and especially) if "there are 40 or 50 others doing the exact same thing!"... A quote from a parent/coach matside.


Jeff Broadbent - MVWC

Hey Jeff, can I get your clubs itinerary for the remainder of the year?

A chewer, huh??!!

Jeff

Only when no one is looking. I found it curious at a tournament yesterday they announced no chewing, so I immediately walked to the front door & huddled around the front door were 6 people smoking.

Do you seriousely want to throw this on the Refs? They have a hard enough time keeping two coaches to a corner, and the mats clear.

Look, I am sick and tired of seeing this post. If Jeff wants to make this his own personal crusade...so be it. For those of you who chew...continue to do so and hide it...but please stop responding so this post will DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beeson - like the attitude. Simply brilliant.

The refs are the ones who are expected to "enforce" the rules of the rulebook.

Back to page 1, but you guys are good! The gauntlet has been layed down!

Patrick,

you just wasted all of beesons hard work in one little keystroke!! :-)

Your killing me...that was 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back. If I chewed, I would need a dip right now. KMAC have one for me ole buddy...we tried.

Beeson, Jeff, and all the rest of you........I'm putting in a super-sized one now!!!!!!!!

Beeson - we make a pretty good tag team even if it was short lived.

I firmly believe that each person has the right to make their own decisions but when an adult is chewing during a wrestling tournament while working at the table, I think this needs to be addressed! This happened on Mat 5 in McPherson this last weekend. My son was checked in by a gentleman who was chewing and spitting in the gym! What kind of example is that?

Thats the point 'Wrestlingsmylife' I am not asking that guy working the table to be my son's role model. That's quite a burden because it something different in each person's eyes. I just want the 'volunteer' to keep the score right. If we are asking all coaches to be perfect examples, boy there should be one or two left buy the time we set the criteria. How about channeling the energy wasted on this crusade and change it to where Jr. High kids have a full season and can do federation as well.

I've been reading this post the last couple of days. Both sides have some good post, but being involved with kids wrestling for 15 years I can tell you people this is a small issue to some. There is going to be way bigger problems to deal with then a coach chewing or a table worker chewing or coach smoking. I have 3 sons that have been involved with kids wrestling, a 11,16 & 18 year old. I don't chew or smoke and nor do my older kids. They have had coach's that have chewed and never once have they ever mentioned that was a problem to me. Yes I have talked to them about the dangers of both and they know as well. Just wait tell your kids get cars, girlfriends, and are out on a Saturday night. When you put things in perspective, some things are more important. I know the rules state that a coach cannot chew at matside. Most people couldn't tell if a coach is chewing or not. I think this topic needs to be put to rest and good luck to all this year.

My parents smoke, my wifes parents smoke. My kids know that it is bad and they express concern for gma and gpas health. My wife nor I smoke and because of the way we have raised our children, I'm 99.99% sure none of the 4 will pick up a cigarette. My kids won't get in a car without putting on their seatbelt even when I don't.

My point is that we as parents set the standards that our children need to adhere to. When we walk through a crowd outside of school smoking, my kids arent blind, they see it. Does it make them want to light up? No. If they see someone with a dip in does that make them want to try it? No. I'm not saying that its ok to break the rules, I'm just saying that if you are parenting your kids properly alot of that stuff is not a factor.

This thread is getting ridiculously long. Like others before me have said, if your gonna eject the chewers, you gotta start ejecting everyone, no matter how small the infraction. I agree with my3sons and Beeson, put this thread to rest.