Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School Regional Assignments

Are the regional assignments being released today?

I think so. They have not been posted on KSHSAA site yet. Basketball has been released.

Please don't use that word on this forum.

Just called KSHSAA. They have not received confirmation from all the schools yet. The goal was to release the assignments today, so they will be posted as soon as possible. When that is, who knows...

What word? KSHSAA?

The James Naismith word!

They will be here when they are released...


http://www.kshsaa.org/WRESTLING/wrsttmp.html

so, hopefully tomorrow sometime then.

Any word yet why they have not been released? Dont schools have to put in to host a regional? It should not be a surprise when Rick calls you and says, "you have a regional." Unless they are still trying to decide where Silver Lake is headed.

Sometimes circumstances change and a school will decline the opportunity; and, with the current financial situation many schools are facing I would not be surprised if some may have taken a pass due to the costs involved.

It is expensive to host such events and the cut of the gate schools receive does not cover all expenses--especially the increase costs of utilities and expenses associated with the wear and tear on buildings--not to mention expense of custodians and workers unless an all volunteer force is organized.

Don't know if this is the situation, but would not be surprised.

Maybe the cut should be adjusted to cover the schools costs and KSHSAA could make some cuts or dip into the war chest they have built up over the years...

Just a suggestion.

For a Kids tournament concessions should nearly cover the cost.

Personally, I think the economic gains that schools will receive from schools staying in hotels, eating at restaurants, and filling up at local gas stations would help to sway an administrator to hosting a regional. However, I could see where administrators would not want to deal with the headache of a regional during these unwary economic times in the public school system.

They have to save money to purchase those sweet State tournament T shirts! lol

and don't forget those awesome medals!

For many regional tournaments if the schools kept 100% of the gate they would not cover the costs associated with even a one day tournament.

A regional tournament, especially of the two day variety, is often an economic boost to our communities but that does not translate into less pressure on the school budget or an increase in the school budget.

Concession profits in most schools are kept by the organization(s) that man them, unlike kids tournaments where those who man them are also kids club members.

Don't want to get into a p***ing match about this; just advanced one theory based on current events as to why hosts may not yet be lined up.

Hey, if we got into a p!$$!ng match I'd win easily because when I wake up in the mornin' I p!$$ excellence.

Well played, sir, well played.

Just curious, what are the percieved or estimated costs of hosting a regional and the expected revenue streams?

I couldnt give you any exact numbers off the top of my head and I assume that a 321 or 4A regional would be much different than a single day 5 or 6A tournament with only 8 teams.
I believe the school gets 25% of the gate after paying the Officials, the Plaques and Medals are provided by KSHSAA. out of that 25% the school pays all expenses.
Things the school must pay have been touched on above. but include things like, Custodial help(possibly overtime), table workers, computer personell(to run brackets and update online), paper and copy expenses, Seeding meeting food and drinks, T-shirts for all workers, Hospitality Room expenses for coaches/workers/cheerleaders/officials, Last year we rented a Dollumar mat to make 3 full mats fit in our gym $300, Score Clocks if necessary for 3rd mat. I am sure I am forgetting some other things but in the end I have been told it usually costs $1000-$1500. ( I also know many of the things above could be donated or volunteer and usually are.)
The community makes that back and then some. Also the team would have expenses to travel to a tournament especially if they stay overnight, pay a bus driver, fuel and food. So in the end it benefits the community but may cost the district a little bit. Right now most districts are really tightened up and may not be as willing to commit to this.
I figure that may be the reason for the delay. KSHSAA really should consider giving a little more to the schools, it is a tremendous amount of work for the A.D. to run a tournament.

James is on target here. Another big expense he did not include is the cost of utilities and this will vary depending on weather, and of course will be greater for the two day tournaments.

Also we CHOOSE to hire the County EMT to have an ambulance and a response team present at all times when we host the regional tournament.

Finally, believe it or not, wrestling tournaments are real hard on buildings and especially the plumbing and bathroom fixtures. Depending on the age of the building repair costs are something that have to be expected. Paper towel & soap dispensers as well as trash cans seem to come in for more than their fair share of abuse--especially after the consolation quarter and semi-final rounds