I didn't go this year for obvious reasons, but I will say this, I have never been to better tournaments than Roller tournaments. Cliff Keen Kickoff Classic was always among the toughest in the country due to not being seeded.

Regarding the hard luck tournament. The intent was to guarantee wrestlers more than 2 matches. I have spoken to Jack and Steve about this in the past and the other option would be to let the kids go 0-2 and then home but they wanted to give the kids that wanted it more mat time. Thus the inclusion of the hard luck tourney. With enough complaints I am sure they would go ahead and go back to letting kids go 2 and out.