I recall that I said the hard luck portion was great for mat time and experience for the kids, however i do not believe in giving a reward for being beat out and that was my only complaint. The length of the tournament was fine for myself and my son, and I was just saying that the hard luck portion could have been run a bit more smoothly. And yes, this was our first time to Kickoff or any one of the Roller production tournaments. These complaints won't deter me or my son from coming again, i just think it needs to be tweaked a bit.