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n7m, so you are drom district4? I need you to get with your District 4 state rep and have him call me. Lethim look et the thread and give us his input.thanks
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The type of person who understands no one else plight because it doesn't affect you. Then when it does affect you, you expect everyone else to stand up for you and understand. Thus being one of them. And to think i actually defend you on here in another post. It should be about the kids not a few but all of them short, tall, big or little. I think if you will go back and read my posts I said our club does have a kid who is too large to wrestle in his own age group for qualifiers. I am attempting to remedy that. So I'm not one of "them", instead I'm one of "those".
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enough is enough people. what we need to do on here is discuss the ideas for change. whether kids wrestle up an age group or add weight divisions. headup, you made a good point about wrestling up in age. i thought about that all day. and you are right in a way but from my experience(i was forced to do that twice) it was like comparing hamburger to steak if you understand what i am saying. there was such a great level of maturity between the bottom of 10 and under and the top of 12 and under. sportsfan02, i dont know if you just like to aggravate people on here or you just feel strongly about your view, but the obese comments wasn,t fair to these kids. alot of parents know their kids have an obesity issue. my son is obese . that is why we are wrestling. and after 3 years of trying to figure out what is going on with his weight gain issue, we just found out that he has thyroid problems. we have listened to all the advice about the diet. and we still found him gaining 10 to 20 lbs a year. there are other kids i see that are just tall and muscular at this age. what i want from you is your ideas, not critical attitude. for two years all you can say is no kid should get to walk to state. it happens every year whether you like it or not. i asked for my kid to be able to wrestle up last year in the qualifiers. they have to wrestle their own age group. thats what the rule is right now. the other thing you keep saying is that the weghts have been studied to death and no change is needed. please dont reply to my post unless you want to be part of the solution. thank you very much I feel for your problem but tell me how creating a weight bracket just for your child to walk to state will solve his/your problems. I gave you my solution to the problem yet you don't want to hear that. I have witnessed heavyweights in high school who spent the better part of two years getting down to weight so they could wrestle. They didn't ask for a special weight group and that will not be available for your son as well. IMO you and others are only encouraging the obesity by attempting to create weight groups where they can walk to a medal at state.
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I gave you my solution to the problem yet you don't want to hear that. IMO you and others are only encouraging the obesity by attempting to create weight groups where they can walk to a medal at state. NO, they didn't AGREE with your solutions, BUT stated clearly WHY they don't AGREE. NOW i have seen 4-5 people who DISAGREE with you AND I, it's OK, they have made their case, as have you, we will see how it pans out come state meeting time. accusing parents and coaches of encouraging obesity? are you serious? which is your stance, NO WALKS TO STATE, or NO OBESE KIDS IN WRESTLING? i'm on board with the first, but have a major problem with discriminatory comments like this, just because these people don't agree with YOU, doesn't mean you have to cross lines. your true colors are beginning to show. FYI- just like the state meetings, there is protocol that should be followed before you make such statements. it has something to do with walking a mile in their shoes. I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THESE PEOPLE, BUT CAN PROMISE YOU, THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO ENCOURAGE OBESITY. PELLAND'S IDEA WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE WORK EACH YEAR, BUT I SOUNDS LIKE THE "BEST OF BOTH WORLDS".
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dean70 yes i am from D4 I will get ahold of Woody and give him your info.
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There is some very good thoughts in here.I hope the state put some of them to use.
Like stated befor if they pay they should get to play.
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It is not just my son i am representing on here. i can see this happening again in the 8 and under down the road to kids that are not even wrestling yet. maybe you headup and sportsfan02 are correct. wrestling up might not give a kid a sense of accomplishment today. and they won,t appreciate it until years down the road. I will agree to that part. I took a look at the results from 2009. Not everybody would be happy with a proposal for kids to wrestle up. I would be ok with that compromise. How would you decide who is elgible to wrestle up??? Next thing you know, the kids wouldn,t be working as hard to get to state. I dont know all the answers. that is why I have got on this forum. This is the tool for all of us to communicate what is right for the sport and the kids. So I would like to see more input. I also see that studying the brackets can be overwhelming. But it would be worth it if these kids have the opprotunity to wrestle for the finale every year instead of seeing that the can play but not in the playoffs. they are defeated before they get started. sportsfan02, what exactly would be in your proposal?
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I have been dealing with this problem fora while now. MY son is 10U 150, at almost every tournament we have been to he has had to wrestle in the HWT bracket or had HWT's inserted in his bracket. When your weighing in at 1488-49 and your opponent is weighing 170+ that is not fair to him. HE can't move these kids. Those 20+ pounds do make a difference. Today they combined his bracket with the HWT's and there were 2 kids in his bracket him and another kid. Needless to say the HWT's took first and second place while he came in 3rd. He got his bell rung by the one kid when the kid fell on his head. Is ther eanything we can do about his?
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yes big DeBo talk to dean70 he is working on getting a list of kids that are in the HWT classes to take to the state and district reps that will increase weight classes or letting them move up in age. Send him a message. One of the kids in our club is sent in at 150 because in 10 and under it goes from 130 to 150 he is weighting 135 and is being combined with 170 and hwt which means that he is giving up at least 30 pounds or more. We always tell him before he goes out just don't get underneath him. We practice leg sweeps with him so he does shoot in cause that would get ugly.
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so sportsfan02, what was that proposal suppose to look like?
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I will submit my proposal to the executive board before the deadline. Right now I'm busy following the high school guys. I will not post my proposal on here either before or after, so if you want to see or hear it, you will need to attend the state meeting.
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Give me a break. If you have one let us know what it is. Maybe we could help you. I am not sure you even have one. Just blowing smoke.
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I think I basically layed out the gist of it in my earlier post on this thread. Not sure what more there is to explain. I never blow smoke where our constitution is concerned.
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yeah it's laid out somewhere around pg. 2 or 3.
more like smoke and mirrors, just like all great politicians.LOL, it took some digging, but it's there........and i happen to agree with it!
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Yeah it's such a hard change to grasp after reading that post.
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