Originally Posted By: HEADUP
to prove my theory: there are exactly 0-wrestlers form OH,or PA on IOWA or IOWA STATES rosters, AND only 1-NJ kid between the two. both are filled with IA kids. MINNESOTA has exactly 1 from OH and 1 from KS, 0 from NJ or PA. the gophers are filled with IL, WI, INSTATE kids. OSU, has the best mixture, but is still mostly OK kids. the NITTANY LIONS are you guessed it 90% PA KIDS. we all have our opionions, some are based on facts, and knowledge. the absolute bottom line is KS doesn't have a NCAA D1 program, that hurts more than anything else.


Heads Up.

I see your facts. But they're pulled from a pretty small sample. I'll you you how to use real facts and data to support an opionion.

I think a more reliable sample would be to look at the starting rosters. Because this is where the 9.9 scholarships go. It's not uncommon for the big schools to have 20 to 30 guys walk on. Most these guys don't see varsity. For example, Iowa has 31 guys on their roster, but only 5 are wrestling varsity.

2nd - When you're comparing Minnesota. You're right when you say they have 1 KS wrestler and 1 Ohio wrestler on their roster. Don't you think it's misleading to compare the #1 ranked Dustin Schlatter (also ranked #1 on US national team) to Joel Hill ( no disrespect to him). I could be wrong, but I bet Schlatter is getting 1 of the 9.9 scholarships and Joel probably just walked on.

Here's some data to support my point about PA, NJ, OH.

Here's the 2009 NCAA qualifiers by state. I think this statitic would mirror the total scholarships given out by D1 Schools. This obviously would encompass all the schools to compare, not just 5.

Top 10
PA=49
NJ=29
OH=26
NY=23
IL=20
CA=19
IA=13
MI=13
FL=10
IN=10

Ks=3 in 27th place

All Americans=

PA= 11
OH=6
KS= 0

Note PA, OH, and NJ had 3 in finals.

If you want to bring up Senior Nationals, please note that PA has never attended this well as it normally conflicts with their Dapper Dan.

OhOo won something like 9 or 10 of these by some large margins. They did have a home mat advantage because it was in Cleveland.
This is not attended as well by Ohio, because they're is a lot of people ticked they moved out of state.


Head-UP I would recommend to form your opionion on some real data.


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