Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion Kids Folkstyle seeding meetings

Your coaching resume doesn't mention your integrity. You are missing the point; blaming everyone else. The complaints came from comments your representatives (since you sent a letter) made about other wrestlers..but your wrestlers were lying about stats. You have wrestlers that wrestle in say 10u all year, but enter 8u for subs! Should that record count? Would a real competitor wrestle at 10u? Should a state championship count from a differnt weight bracket??!! I would have to think so!! Seeding doesn't really mean much, I agree, much it should be accurate...and FAIR!!
Teach your wrestlers to be great athletes as well! Sportsmanship is very important!

Whoa, wait a minute. Are you suggesting kids should not wrestle up in age during the season or that if they do so, it means they are less competitive?

schroeder ive seen u in action u never leave the refs alone LOL

as long as they are giving 100% like we ask our wrestlers to do and what our parents expect from us coaches then they are fine. i see to many times officials are slow to get a count or they dont anticipate movement. I seen last weekend from an official decked out in tulsa nationals stripes not count near fall til he was down on the mat. I asked if there was a reasone not to count in your head as soon as the wrestler gets put into near fall criteria. He said he needed to get the mat and check. lol. i said check what and can see from you feet correct. he then said its my judgement... i laughed and said there you go.

I AGREE WE NEED MORE COACHES LIKE YOU TO KEEP EM ON THEIR TOES

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Poster: WRESTLING1976
Subject: Re: seeding meetings

To clarify Drake Mills has wrestled as an "A" all year and has only 2 KS losses which were at Salina 1 in OT to the 1st place winner. By stating his loss record I am justifying why he has been wrestling as an "A". There must have been an assumption there that he was a placer/qualifier which he wasn't. It didn't have an effect on his seeding his seed was based on his record. Thank you to Akin/Phippen and our East Kansas Family. We are very proud to be part of this team. Just let the comments roll off, stay focused and get ready for Saturday its an exciting time for the kids!!!

East Kansas wrestlers are tough. Every time my sons wrestle one its a dog fight. Love the competition. East kansas coaches always respectful.It dont matter what seed they get!!! Many of thier wrestlers will be on the podium at state. Thats not a prediction its a fact. See you at matside.

Yes, not necessarily & yes.

You ask would a real competitor wrestle at 10u? You've got to be kidding. Are you suggesting that a wrestler who wrestles up a division during the year to get the best competition should also wrestle up at state? Is that even allowed? Maybe all of the best wrestlers should wrestle up both age and weight to make it fair for everyone else. Isn't that what everyone wants, equality for everyone? Sounds like you may need to switch to a different sport. Soccer might be your best choice. They don't even keep score until age 10.

Thanks for all the interesting input! I have no problems with the kids sorting it out on the mat and the best kid coming out on top. My only issue was with the few that make choices to be untruthful and for what reason? To avoid competition! The finals at subs really is just a stepping stone to a state title. I just get agrivated by the small few bad apples. Good luck to all and I hope my kids can win a few matches this weekend!

I found one wrestler that said he was a state placer. The wrestler has never even been to state. The wrestler received a 2nd seed. The wrestler was a placer at ottawa though.

Wrestlers may not wrestle up an age division at State.

If that is an 8U kid I bet they meant the wrestler had placed at 6U state. Another reason no tournament should be allowed to use the term "state" in it's title.

you are all making way too much out of this.

how many kids does a club need to go to subdistricts to be considered a "true club"! ? is there a limit lets say you only have 40 kids going does that mean your not a "true club"! ?

just trying to figure out what a true club or a true kids club is.?

WOW!!!!!!!!!! All this from people that it doesn't even affect. Sounds as if you deserve a seed and were cheated out of one, it really shouldn't matter come saturday! So my suggestion is for all you grown ups to put your best interesrt in to your kids. Because come saturday they either show that a seed doesnt matter or lose and be done! Honestly to me i have a little boy who was a first year wrestler that didnt get a seed and ended up beating the number 2 seed and the number 4 seed to place third and move on in the series. Oh yea and we ended up at the state tournament as a no seed! So i think all this arguing is kinda childish. So you all should grow up and just let our kids decide the outcome. If it were up to me we would just put names in a hat and draw, that would get rid of all this stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST MY TWO CENTS!!!!!!!!

I will definitely admit my mistake in wording on that one! I don't hold the definition of "true club"! That gentleman said he holds the records of all kids within his club. My point was supposed to be...with 59 kids signed up for subs I think it would be hard for any coach to hold the records on every single kid when they all go to different tournaments throughout the year, therefor you must rely on parents to give you the correct wrestlers information or at least verify the information you have. East Kansas has a large amount of kids signed up for subs that were not even with the club last year, so again you would rely on parents to give you the information on their kids record. I know I don't have all kinds of time on my hands to search every kids record. I would of thought if there were any errors in how a kid was entered that it would've been hashed out at a seeding meeting. Good Luck to ALL!

we used to keep every kids records too, but we didn't know who they wrestled. i would like to see your records, so you can prove that you know every match, every opponent. that's the only true way to seed the tourney exactly, but it's simply impossible.

Way to go Jason. Looks like we'll need to put together a coaches dual between Eask Kansas and Olathe South. You drew Akin in the open match. I'll take Phippen in the battle of cervical MRIs. I think he has me in C6 but I know I have him in C7.