Vince I will admit to being "negative" on this subject if you will admit to being equally stubborn ignoring the fact that WSU is THE most likely place for a program to be developed. I would have no problem with a program at either KU or KSU, BUT I also won't waste my time dreaming about it as long as Title IX is in place. If in fact, a D-1 program anywhere is the goal and not simply one at KU or KSU, please explain to me why you would choose to ignore the most likely option. The answer to me is simple, you and your followers want a program, as long as it's in NE Kansas. Something I've learned about goal setting over the years is that goals should be focused and targeted. This shotgun approach to where the program should be located, simply will not work. Again, I would have less negativity towards you and the plan if you would just come out and admit that having a program at WSU is not an option.