Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School Which group did better post high school?

I have been looking back and maybe it is just based on recent outcomes at National Tournaments (Sr. Nationals, Fargo, College and so on), but the 3xers list is pretty impressive I would say.

Just some names that won it 'only' 3 times:

Atticus Disney, Danny Grater, Ross Taplin, Jeff Boyle, Cody Garcia, Paulie Hansen, Brett Bahe, Luke Metzler, Tommy Edgmon, Andrew Ubben, Duane Zlatnick, Jordan Bedore, Earl Jones, Frank Jonas, Jason Pyle, Jake Klein Austin Devoe, Doug Hoover, Wes Harding, Eric Koehler, Levi Younkin, Justin Dyer


I am sure I missed more, but does anybody have post high school career stats on these guys? I know some are just getting started, but compared to the 4x Champs we have some great achievements I would think.

Doug Hoover was a 4 timer.

K eliminate him from the 3xer list. Put him with the 4xers.

Akin 87-89 Bishop Miege - Iowa State - World Team Member
Ankeman 68, 70, 71 Goodland
Baker 74-76 Norton
Beeson 89-91 Ark City
Bell 77-79 Salina Central - Wyoming
Bollin 83-85 Immaculata - Oklahoma - World Team Member
Bontz, Martin 76, 76 GS, 78 - KMC
Boyle, Bill 74, 75, 75 GS - Shawnee Mission West
Boyle, Jeff 95-97 - Norton
Briggs 89-91 - Junction City
Brown, Steve 80-82 - Beloit
Canfield 85,86,88 - Concordia
Charbonneau, Dennis 81-83 Clay Center
Clouse 99-2001 Atchison County
Coleman 96-98 Manhattan - Iowa State
Coons 81-83 Hutchison
Dawes 94-96 Andale
DeLeon, Robert 78,79,81 Leoti
Devoe 99-2001 - Columbus
Dong, John 88,89,91 - Concordia
Douglas 79-81 - Oklahoma - World Team, Olympian
Dykstra 86-88 - Wichita South
Fischer 81-83 - Oklahoma - NCAA AA
Fisher 68-70 - Norton
Frakes 76,76GS,78 - Douglass
Franks 87-89 - Wellington
Gabel, Kelly 97-99 - St. Francis
George 89-91 - Wichita Northwest
Geyer 90-92 - Leoti
Goodale 90-92 - Ark City
Grieve 81-83 - Osborne
Gull 66-68 - El Dorado
Hankins 92-94, Ark City
Harding 84-86, Southeast Saline - FHSU
Harrington 80-82 Derby - OSU, FHSU
Heidrick 79,81,82 Beloit
Hernandez, Chris 89-91 Ark City
Hewitt, Mark 80,81,83 Beloit
Horning 67-69 Norton
Jenkins 95-97 St. Francis
Johnson, Toby 83,84,86 Beloit
Jones, Terry 74-76 Oakley
Keller, Neil 85-87 - KMC
Klein 99-2001 - KMC
Koehler 79-81 - Nemaha Valley
Kraft 87-89 - Emporia
Lampe, Steve 65-87 - Colby - Iowa State
Landes 66-68 - Wellington
Lollar 74,76,77 - Scott City
Luschen 76-78 - Shawnee Mission South
Madison 92-84 - Ulysses
Milsap 79-81 - Wichita North - Nebraska
Morrow 84-86 - Derby
Neville, Paul 46,48,49 - St. Francis
Neville, Lyle 53-55 - St. Francis
Ngo, Chris 93-95 - Concordia
Noce, Cliff 80-82 - Emporia
Patch, Kyle 92-94 - Harmon/Schlagle
Pfizenmaier 96-98 - Clay Center
Pope 72-74 - Hoxie
Ramirez 69-71 - Ark City
Ray, David 79-81 - Carroll/Goddard - Iowa/Edinboro NCAA D1 AA
Rechtfertig 88,89,91 - Wellsville
Roark, Matt 86,87,89 - Columbus
Roark, Randy 89,91,92 - Columbus
Shelton 88-90 Phillipsburg
Shepard 56-58 Hoxie
Speer, Gerard 99-2001 Scott City
Spencer, Pat 79-81 KMC
Sporer 79-81 - Oakley
Stueve 75,76,76GS - Emporia
Terry 91-93 - McPherson - Nebraska NCAA D1 AA
Tilman 96,97,00 - Pratt
Tolbert, Herbert 76,76GS,77 - Newton
Vandever 95-97 - Ark City
Votopka 50-52 - Oberlin
Wilson, Lance 84,86,87 - Blue Valley
Witherspoon 73-75 - Liberal
Zuege 74,75,75GS - St. Francis

Wow. How did I miss those 2?! I am thinking the 3timers may have the nod on better post high school accolades.

That list is up through 2001. I don't have the rest with me. I think the 3xers as a whole have something left to prove or so it appears. Only 3 4xers have NCAA D1 AAed.

I know that 2 of the 3Xers from Clay Center (Pfizenmaier, Grater) have 5 AA's to their credit between them in Division II.

Terry from McPherson was also a Div 1 AA for Nebraska.

I had the data for the state championships but all the post high school stuff I listed was off the top of my head. It would be great to have a site that listed all of our wrestler's post high school major accomplishments. Heck just to wrestle beyond HS is a major commitment. If I could I would list every college these guys attended and then do a two timer list as well. Any help like Brandon's would be greatly appreciated. (Where did Pfizenmaier wrestle?)

Brandon wrestled at Kearney, NE

Jake Strait 01-03 Concordia

Don't forget the the 4 or 5 hwts mentioned earlier either.

Randybob was a 4-time AA in college.

Scotty Goodale was a D2 National Champion. Alan Hankins was a D2 Runner-up. Both from Ark City.

Tony Lewis was only a 1 timer but 2008 AA for the University of Nebraska at Omaha...

Scott Coleman was "only" a 3 timer, but he was a high school national champion and All-American at Iowa State.

maybe there's something to the post about 4 time champs, and post high school success.

Joe Renfro
Jon White
Joe Johnston
Shawn Bunch
Jason Soloman?
are a few off the top of my head who arguably had more success in college, with out all the championships in high school.

Cokeley's list is incorrect:
Ankenman was from Norton
Baker was from Goodland

I will plug for bro. Lyle Geyer he was 3x'r 90,91,92. National Champion at senior nationals OW of senior nationals in 92. AA when at southern Colorado

Jason Pyle was a 2X AA at D-III Luther College in Decorah, Iowa. His older brother Matt "only" won it 2X was but was 2X D-III National Champ at Luther as well.