I have been on both the receiving end of this subject, but then again I have done this to a handfull of kids. I don't think it's right anymore, if I could I would go back and just pin the kids. I recently had a kid who I was coaching just toying with another young man and I got on him about it. I think it's unsportsmanlike, and kids should go out to pin kids as soon as they can. However, if a kid is just balling up on the bottom and not doing anything I am all for taking him down and letting him up.