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Originally Posted By: Ex Heights Coach
If the definition of a fool is to question and to state accurate facts, then I qualify as a fool, and will always be one.


It's all good. Your grandson is having a great year. I got the info after the rankings for this week were posted. On my spreadsheet for next week, I have him in there. Good luck this weekend!


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OK, this has eaten at me all day so just as you all have defended the chief, I am going to defend the old man. First of all, Mr. Ex Heights Coach is no fool and he was not being an idiot. The name calling was not necessary. He most certainly has been around the sport of wrestling longer than anyone on this talk forum and maybe in this entire state. What he did was state facts and question a decision to not rank a seemingly deserving young man. I've seen others do it many times. Some of YOU have done it. Could he have mentioned names? Yes! However, he did not feel it was appropriate to call out any names of kids of the forum. It wasnt about negating any accomplishments. Could he have PM'd the chief? Yes! If he knew what that was and how to do it! Wilgers had already been mentioned in a somewhat derogatory comment by chief once earlier in the forum regarding a win he had over another wrestler. It insinuated that the other wrestler must not be as good as originally thought because he lost to Wilgers. Mr.Ex Heights Coach was trying to keep names out and clarify the general evaluation process. "Who he is" would be his decision to officially reveal but I can tell you that it is no secret to anyone that has been around high school wrestling for any length of time. Good Luck to all wrestlers this weekend! All of them are hard working and deserving of our praise.




“In the practice of tolerance, one's enemy is the best teacher.”


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Nice post gymmom I agree 100%. After seeing the venomous reactions to ex-coaches original post, I went back and reread it, to see what justified the harsh reactions from the chief and the tag-a-longs. What I read was a fact based, concise, to the point post. It was clear to me that he was diplomatically avoiding naming any names to keep from ruffling any feathers(we all see how that worked out!). What I didn’t see was a personal attack on anyone!
I guess we should all just ignore the fact that Ex-Coach had a legitimate argument and angrily tell him, he is a fool, and we are waiting for him to make up is own rankings!


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Sometimes the "fools" have forgotten more about something than most of us will ever know.


Well you're just a special kind of stupid aren't you?
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Originally Posted By: Ben Dover
Nice post gymmom I agree 100%. After seeing the venomous reactions to ex-coaches original post, I went back and reread it, to see what justified the harsh reactions from the chief and the tag-a-longs. What I read was a fact based, concise, to the point post. It was clear to me that he was diplomatically avoiding naming any names to keep from ruffling any feathers(we all see how that worked out!). What I didn’t see was a personal attack on anyone!
I guess we should all just ignore the fact that Ex-Coach had a legitimate argument and angrily tell him, he is a fool, and we are waiting for him to make up is own rankings!


Totally disagree, with all due respect. The post was definitely derogatory and it attacked the rankings and the ranker. Your tag-a-long comment was totally derogatory as well. There are no tag-a-longs to Chief. That's like saying that Keith Richards is a tag-a-long to Mick Jagger, or that Doc Holliday was a tag-a-long to Wyatt Earp, or that Mike Gundy was a tag-a-long to Barry Sanders, or that Rudolph is a tag-a-long to Santa Claus, or that the Disciples were tag-a-longs to Jesus Christ, get it. They are all merely people (except Rudolph) with common interests, opinions, philosophies perhaps and ambitions.

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Gymmom,
"Time spent and work attempted does not always equal quality" that statement more than any other set some people off on this forum. You have no idea how much time (non paid) Eric Johnson puts into doing the ranking. Again, as was stated if you guys feel you can do better by all means do it. Until then, teach Ex Heights Coach to PM Chief and accept that the rankings can change.


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If your going to throw punches on a public forum than expect them to come back your way.

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I guess it can be expected that the testosterone really gets flowing on a wrestling forum smile


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Originally Posted By: insidetie
accept that the rankings can change.


and WAYYYYY TOO OFTEN for some of us. wink


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AJ Hurtado Didn't place and Garden City and moved to number 1

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Originally Posted By: wrestle nuts
AJ Hurtado Didn't place and Garden City and moved to number 1


Correct. He moved to #1 at 132 after Randolph lost. He lost to undefeated Martinez from CO and to Dakin in OT in that bracket. They also added #2 ranked Heiman at 160. That's an add of 20 points.


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132 is pretty hard to figure, Everyone is beating each other up from week to week in 5 and 6a anyway

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Originally Posted By: wrestle nuts
132 is pretty hard to figure, Everyone is beating each other up from week to week in 5 and 6a anyway


Entirely true! It's the craziest weight.


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I just sent the 6A rankings to Kramer. They should be updated tonight!


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Just curious, at 6-A 113 has Haug wrestled any of the ranked wrestlers other than Morrow?

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Yes he lost to Garcia in week 2 14-7. Lost to WR first match of the year then again two weeks ago in ot with a very questionable call at the end of reg.


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As 311fan noted, Freislinger won in OT against Haug and then beat Trey Nelson from Staley (MO) in OT the next match at the ON Duals Tournament. He is having a nice Senior campaign and has always used his length to his advantage.

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That Haug/Freislinger OT match was a good one!


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