Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School 20% of 5a wrestlers at state

In 5a 44 kids have losing records thats 20% of the 5A state tourny.
In 4a 3 kids have losing records thats around 1.34% of the state tourny.

KSHSAA OPEN YOUR EYES 5A 6A NEEDS TO BE COMBINED!

Just curious why does everyone want to combine 5A and 6A?

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Don't take the bait Austin. Some people have inadequacy issues. We all know records are a reflection of the caliber of competition you wrestle.

Ark City Kansas does not win 13 years in a row unless 20% of the kids at state have losing records.

Same bs argument as last year. A kid that is 8-20 and did not win a match in regionals, has no business being at state. Records like 3-6 7-27 3-10 1-4 9-18 6-10 7-15 8-16 5-11 8-12 3-13 have no business being at state. I have no problem with a kid earning his way to state but being in a four man bracket at regionals is a joke. Even having to win 1 match at regionals is a joke.

The state tournament should be the tuffest tourney of the year. 5a and 6a State will NEVER be the tuffest tourney of the year with out a change.

I have no inadequacy issues. Please tell me where all these high caliber kids are?
Please tell why you think a 4a kid with a 32-9 record has not wrestled any high caliber kids?

Records are a reflection of how good you are. I would bet a lot of money that no one with single digit wins and double digit losses places at state. I would bet even more that 90% of them go 2 and out and the other 10% might win 1 match after there first loss.

If thats the competition you want at your State Tourny, well thats pretty sad. It should be the best of the best. Its just an easy 1st round win and guaranteed team points for that 1st place regional kid wrestling a 4th place regional kid.

5 kids in 4a state this year have single digit wins, all of them had to win 3 matches at regionals to make it to state.

Salina South had 3 kids with below .500 records start the day yesterday that made the finals. Two of them still have below .500 records. Two of them beat the 1 seeds that were state ranked with pretty records; one beat the two seed. One of them beat the 4, 1, & 2 seed and won the tournament.

Can it be the competition? Can it be luck. Can it be that all of 5A is bad and doesn't even deserve a state tournament???

Yes! A great idea. 5A and 6A are so bad we could eliminate those tourn. We also know 3A is week. So we could just have one state championship (4A). We could then have it all under one roof. We could also have it at a place that has two gyms, like Salina South. That way we could pacify the western Kansas folk by having a JV state (3A) in the lower gym.

A true state, and a JV state. Yes, eveyone will be happy!

Oh cr@#! My last post didnt mention how good I was back in the day, how many state championships I won, how good the compition was, how much I know about wrestling, or how many matches I won. I promise to post better next time.

ANY STATE TOURNY WITH A REGIONAL WITH A 2 DAY 16 MAN BRACKET IS GOING TO HAVE TUFFER KIDS IN IT THAN A ONE DAY 8 MAN BRACKET THAT HAS 4 OPEN SPOTS AND EVERY ONE GOES TO STATE REGARDLESS OF THEM WINNING A MATCH OR NOT.

None of the wrestlers that have made it to State have chosen were they live. On top of that, they have no say in where they compete during the year. For anyone to come on this forum and say that a wrestler doesn't deserve to go to State when they have placed at their Regional is pretty sad. I am sure that everyone one of them is deserving in one way or another to compete for a State Championship.

LEE IF YOU DO NOT WIN A MATCH IN REGIONALS YOU THINK YOU DESERVE TO GO TO STATE?

WHEN THE KIDS IN 3A AND 4A HAVE TO WIN 3 OR 4 MATCHES TO BE TOP 4

you also forgot to make a ridiculous comment about Ark City.

Oh! Ive been to Ark City once. All that stuff they had hanging on the wall didnt impress me at all. It means nothing, compared to my 3rd place 4A regional medal, thats stuck in a box somewhere in my basement.

i know. right?

A wrestler competes all year, they work hard in practice, they sacrifice throughout the year, they don't choose where they live, they can't change who they wrestle or where, and they can't change how many wrestlers are in their bracket at Regionals. If they finish at the top four in Regionals, then they are deserving of a State Tournament.

Not a Factual Statement. Do you know why?

Its on the wall right next to my 5a football state championship patch and my 2 back to back 4a Team wrestling titles and the college I wrestled at National championship.

Who are you ?Keep hiding behind a name Tuff guy. I live in Texas I do not have a basement.