Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School 12/1 - Gardner Edgerton Invitational

Damn Will. You carry a pretty big stick to get that kind of reaction. Surprised there wasnt a threat of bodily harm. How dare you speak your opinion on a forum. Curious to see how many of these comments get erased. Censorship seems to be what "in" these days.

If he was the true number one seed, and is the best wrestler in the bracket it shouldn't really matter where he gets seeded. He should be able to beat anybody in his path.

You're missing Will's point--yes it doesn't affect the wrestler who should be seeded number one, what he's saying is that It's not fair to those other wrestlers who are unfairly matched up against said kid earlier on than they should have, perhaps preventing them from placing as high as they could. Common sense.

I don't have a dog in this race But I wondered how far off off were all of the seeds?

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[*]No 1 seed placed 1st 9 times, second 3 times 8th and 4th.

[*]No 2 seed was in finals 8 times winning 3, placed 3rd twice, 4th twice 6th and 8th.

[*]No 3rd seed made the finals 4 times winning 1, consolation finals 5 times winning 4. Placed 5th,6th,7th twice and 8th

[*]No 4 seed made the finals twice winning 1. 6 times consolation finals winning 3 times. 5th 3 times, 6th, 7th, and 8th,

Looks pretty solid.

Mark,

Simmons was the absolute easiest decision #1 seed. Also the #4 seed that won was a 2x Fargo AA. Anyone that knows Mike Medina knows him to be of the highest character. He basically never makes a big deal out of seeds. When he speaks up like he did in that meeting, the other coaches should have known there was something to it. I applaud Coach Carroll for standing by him and understanding that Simmons was the obvious top seed at 120. Notably the two coaches in favor of seeding that weight correctly were Divison I wrestlers themselves.

Why is that ironic. . .perhaps coincidental, but hardly ironic. I have sat in some meetings with former divison 1 wrestlers who were as tunnel visioned about their kids as anyone else in the room.

That wrestler was not their kid.

I'm still curious as to why Fergola was even doing the seeding or in the meeting if he has no involvement to the event at all. It should have been the local high school coaches involved in the tourney as I have been to many High School seeding meetings also?

Hey in all events you do like to see the two highest seeds making it to the finals don't you?

Mark,

The #1 seed at 120 got 5th??? You don't show any 1 seeds placing 5th?? Do we need a thorough review of your data? Regardless, you support my point that 120 should not have been missed and should have been corrected at the Saturday meeting. Markus didn't just win 120, he dominated. Three pins and two tech falls.

I read through the e mail posted on here as being from a Gardner Edgerton Administrator.

I am assuming the e mail is accurate and was sent exactly as posted.

I do know have any personal knowledge of the seeding, past seeding, the tournament in the past or the tournament this year.

My comments are only based on the this quotation copied and pasted here from one of the above posts.

"I can tell you that if you were a parent in the Gardner Edgerton High School scene and I discovered that you were making comments to these affects and contacting another schools tournament management you would be in my office and we would be discussing this personally."

I take the end of this sentence to be written in a threatening manner. I don't know the person who wrote the e mail. During 26 years of teaching I have had the chance to meet many people who worked for school districts. Occasionally I have had the chance to meet an administrator or teacher who thought their authority extended into the world outside of school. Even in the case of criticism or praise by someone outside of their school. It has always been especially humorous to observe these teachers or administrators throughout their careers.
In any case from the way the e mail was written young Will is lucky he isn't a patron of the Gardner Edgerton School District. If so I would imagine he would be serving detention or clapping erasers for the next few weeks. The administrator might be mistaking his position in the school for authority in other parts of life.

Can any of you, as an adult patron of a district, imagine receiving a call or letter from an administrator telling you to be in his/her office to discuss your behavior?

Careful, Will, you maybe suspended from adult activities or sent to the alternative school for adults if you continue this behavior. They must have been granted far reaching power in the Gardner district.

I am not sure I know the whole story, but did Cokely contact the coach or AD from GE? If so, then maybe the Saint James AD would have something to say about one of his parents contacting coaches or administrators from another school when the parent does NOT represent the school in any capacity.

If Will had a dollar for every anonymous and first-time poster with a drive-by comment about him he would be rich. He did not contact the AD. Even if he did, what world do you live in that would make that wrong?

In what world is it appropriate for a parent to contact another school's staff to complain about how their tournament is run? Maybe all Cokely would have to do is ask the Saint James AD his thoughts on the matter?

I would say that contacting someone directly is always better than shooting your opinion out on a forum while hiding your identity!

My dad didn't contact anyone from GEHS. He complained about the seeding on here. The AD from GEHS saw the comments he made then emailed him.

At least Cokeley is man enough to put his name on all his posts. The forums dont need another no name mud slinger....we got plenty

Perhaps you and Chief could point us to where the "mud slinging" was in either of his/her posts? You people just can't stand for anyone to dare to disagree with you or your man. Or in this case to even dare ask a question.

Nobody can control who seeds what tournament or what seed you will get, but what you can control is winning. If you think you should be the number one seed, you should be able to beat every other kid as well in no matter what order. Quit complaining.

If I wasn't "allowed" to speak my peace to my school's administration, I can assure you that I would do all in my power to make sure that said administration would be on the way out the door. And since my tax dollars go to pay for all of these public schools, I would expect to be able to do the same with another school's administration.

THis guy from GEHS sounds like a pompous a$$, with a typical government employee attitude. "Who are you, lowly parent, to question me, the administrator??!! I have some letters behind my name, therefore you shall bow down before me, and I will tell you how to raise your kids"