Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School state tournaments

just throwing this out there and maybe it has been dis-cussed in the past. there are lots of us that would really like to see 4,5,6a combined again. we also know that may never happen. what i would like to see is maybe alternating those classes from salina to wichita. for instance this year you have 4a in salina with 5 and 6a in wichita. next year you move 6a to salina and 4 and 5a to wichita. they get a different venue every 2 years and people like me that have friends and relatives kids wrestling in 4,5, and 6a might get to see them wrestle at state. not sure how it all ties in but just an idea. im sure there are contracts and all for that but not sure. maybe someone with more knowledge could reply on this.

Wichita no longer has a facility large enough to host three classes at one time other than Intrust Arena and they have likely priced thenselves out of the state tournament business and parking would be a major problem with many complaints.

How big and what is Kansas Star Arena? I've tried to find out some information but haven't had any luck. Someone needs to put some pressure on them for information.

if they want to make it happen sportsfan they can make it happen no matter what. if they dont want to make it happen then hell no they wont make it happen.

It looks to be the about the size of Hartman Arena. If so, that would make it too small for 3 classes.

We need a Faro Dome type building in Kansas, until we get something like that, forget it...

ok so can somebody discuss what i really brought the topic up about and that is rotating the classes. if they cant have all 3 classes in one location couldnt they rotate the classes. sportsfan come up with something positive. i want you to break your streak of at least 1000 straight negative posts or cutting up someones post by adding negative bs. just saying.

Sometimes the truth hurts! I'm not the one who didn't know we don't have a facility large enough to handle three classes. On a positve note, I guess maybe we could hold it outdoors in a football stadium?

Maybe we can get the Koch brothers to build an arena we could use. They could do it with their spare change..

Intrust arena is plenty big enough , and has plenty of parking . I know hundreds of people that have went to sold out events at Intrust and never ever have I heard one thing about parking , EVER ! I read the paper every day and have never ever heard anything about parking . Plenty of hotels , plenty of parking ( I will put a map of all the parking lots around the arena tomorrow on this site ), plenty of resturants . Lets make it happen , if not next year then next year after that , lets have all the state championships under one roof . Like Iowa and Wisconsin and Nebraska and Oklahoma and so on . People in Wichita that didn't want the arena built are still so negative about it , it's done , its built get over it .

Had I lived in Wichita I would have voted for Intrust so I am hardly an "anti". BUT, I also would have demanded from the elected officials that enough parking be built. The reason there has been little in the way of complaints about parking is because there are few events at Intrust and almost none on weekdays as would be the case with wrestling. BUT, there ARE complaints never the less. You just have to read the blogs and comments sections of various media to find them. You currently have retail establishments suing each other over the lack of addequate parking downtown. The parking maps are the biggest propoganda I've seen in that many of the areas they show as "public parking" are in fact private or unavailable during normal working hours. I believe even the Intrust managemnt knows their limitations in that regard and thus haven't pursued these types of events more aggressively. This is why myself and several others tried to quiet the small vocal minority on this board that complained about the Coliseum when all three classes were there. Some of us knew that the chances of us ever getting another facility that worked that well for our needs were slim and none.
You are correct, Wichita is perfect in every other way to hold three or more classes and eventually the elected officials will pull their heads out and get public parking built.
NOBODY wants all three classes back together more than I do!!!

so in regards to rotating the classes like i explained. what are your comments about that as we all know that having all 3 classes under one roof probably wont happen until they get something built or go back to the coliseum.

How big is the facility that is used for Missouri? Don't they do a staggered 3 day type of state tournament, and eventually when you get down to the best athletes, they bring all the classes into the venue on the same time frame?

In Colorado they wrestle all classes in the same venue in a 3 day event. Thursday they will wrestle the small classifications 1st round in early afternoon and big schools in the evening. Friday morning they will wrestle quarterfinals and consolations for small schools and in the early afternoon they do the same for big schools. At 7 PM they combine all classes for the semi-finals. On saturday they wrestle small schools consolation in morning and big school in afternoon. That night they combine all classes for the finals.

You're asking the wrong person. You probably need to address that to the 3-2-1A people. They would be the ones having to move. I would personally have no problem with two classes at each venue. I know Hays could never hold two classes but Salina and Wichita certainly could.

the only ones that would have to move would be 4,5 and 6a. that would be every other year. i stated already that 5 and 6a would be in wichita and 4a in salina. then next year 6a move to salina and 4 and 5a in wichita. the next year would be 5a in salina and 4 and 6a in wichita. 3,2, and 1a would still stay in hays like normal. its just a suggestion. i just figured you post on everything else so you would be one of the people that would offer a suggestion sporto

I don't know what you gain by just rotating the three classes.

The opportunity to watch other kids that your kids may have wrestled against, with, etc.........during kids wrestling

After the old days of having all three classes together I admit I'm a bit jaded. If I can't see all three then why bother. Besides, it would just happen that the year I wanted to see a particular wrestler or wrestlers from another class they would be at another location by chance. I don't see KSHSAA ever putting 6A as a stand alone tournament. They would never support the gate enough to pay for the facility.

It is my belief that people do not have a parking problem at Instust, instead they have a I dont want to walk further than a few steps problem!