Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School HS Regionals - Open Spots & Team Scoring

Bullseye!!

Byes do not go to higher seeds. Byes are drawn in randomly either by the computer or by hand.

Shoot it could be worse than that. For instance, a large tourney such as Basehor. A kid could get a bye on the front side, earn 4 team points, lose a match, and get a bye on the backside lose a match and score another 3 team points. He would have 2 victories and 7 team points without winning a match or maybe even scoring a point.

First we need to define a BYE. That is when there is NO TEAM to present a wrestler into the bracket. For instance, if you only have 15 teams and a 16 man bracket there will be a BYE. You should apply the traditional point earning to that situation. If you have a team that doesn't have a wrestler it would be an OPEN ie. OPEN Silver Lake so that would be a forfeit. It is not the opposing team's responsibility to fill other teams' rosters. If you don't bring a wrestler you don't earn points and the other teams get a forfeit. Simple.

And in a dual tourny with 2 forfiets he would be 2-0 with 12 team points. Whats the difference, either way its a forfiet because the opposing team didnt bring a wrestler.

Now you might have a viable arguement if you change the meaning of a bye and an open. How the heck do you spell check on this forum?

Thats what I was trying to say in my original post.

There is no spell checker..

Random draws for byes is a myth in my opinion, almost every tourny that my son has been the 1 or 2 seed in a non full brcket he has had a bye.

www.kshsaa.org/Publications/Wrestling.pdf

Please read page 12 of 44

1.G.1 and also read NFHS reference numbers

I understand what some are advocating - but I also understand the rules as they currently stand.

We all know what the rules are! That's the point of this entire discussion.

I agree with Will. There is a big difference between a "bye" and a "forfeit".

Are KHSAA wrestling events team events or individual events?????

Uhhh oh

Harry is right on the mark. The reason behind is that the bye is placed by a blind draw. There is no perfect fix for all's views but no way someone should score points for not winning a match. Everyone has the same chance of drawing the bye or not getting it. What was harder as a wrestler was not getting that match to help with wieght and then as a coach wanting that chance at bonus points. (Harry we had a couple regional titles that came down to one point here or there so those byes were a big part) What I think is a bigger crime is having a 8 man bracket in a state qualifier. Thats not getting your best kids on to the dance.. for an old guy Harry is still pretty sharp.