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Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Some observations today at Silver Lake...

3. St. James Academy made a statement. For all of those out there that questioned them being ranked so high in 5A, think again.
Statements such as this are why I hold you in such low regard. You are attempting to validate your own opinion. Make no mistake, Saint James Academy has an outstanding head coach, a very good program and a very good team however your bloviating is nauseating.


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The 132 match was really good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Salyer, that was awesome. We all know Chief works hard on the rankings but he does have a blatant bias for SJA.


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I also observed the Pratt kid from Bal. Seemed like a pretty tough competitor. I could not find him ranked anywhere. What is his story?

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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Some observations today at Silver Lake...

1. Congrats to Bryant Guillen. He was dominating in his 10-0 victory over 2nd ranked Trent Salsbury.
Perhaps the 5A ranking coordinator had the 2nd ranked wrestler ranked too high. Who is that ranking coordinator? wink


I am.

Notice that the 3rd ranked wrestler at 5A/170 is Jared Langley who Salsbury beat last week at Garden City. Perhaps I have Trent ranked correctly.


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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Some observations today at Silver Lake...

1. Congrats to Bryant Guillen. He was dominating in his 10-0 victory over 2nd ranked Trent Salsbury.
Perhaps the 5A ranking coordinator had the 2nd ranked wrestler ranked too high. Who is that ranking coordinator? wink


He has him ranked second behind him. He has beaten the kids beneath him. What else is he supposed to do? I find this to be a stirring comment with no real substance. You are a smarter guy than that. Pick a fight somewhere else.


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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Some observations today at Silver Lake...

3. St. James Academy made a statement. For all of those out there that questioned them being ranked so high in 5A, think again.
Statements such as this are why I hold you in such low regard. You are attempting to validate your own opinion. Make no mistake, Saint James Academy has an outstanding head coach, a very good program and a very good team however your bloviating is nauseating.


Read the All Class stream. No wonder you cannot play well with others. No one wants to play with you. Eric was soundly chastised for ranking SJA over Seaman when Seaman won the the Bobcat. For those who struggle with the concept of looking at the 5A only competition, this tournament validated the rankings. I like it when you bring value to the forum by revealing interesting news but your personality conflict with Mr. Johnson has worn me out. I like both of you and almost EVERYONE I know respects Eric's extensive contributions to Kansas wrestling with you being a boorish exception. I hope you didn't puke too much...


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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Some observations today at Silver Lake...

3. St. James Academy made a statement. For all of those out there that questioned them being ranked so high in 5A, think again.
Statements such as this are why I hold you in such low regard. You are attempting to validate your own opinion.


And . . . what is wrong with that? Whose opinion should he be attempting to validate? Isn't that a standard part of argumentation?

Premise, premise, premise . . .

THEREFORE . . .

ANSWER . . . (or, an inductive opinion - if a deductive argument cannot be attained as is often the case).


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Originally Posted By: Cokeley
I hope you didn't puke too much...
Why would I puke? I fully expected a reply from you defending your friend. Your allegiance is to be commended. Fortunately for you, I, and the ranker, due to the sacrifices of many to defend our right for free expression of speech, we are entitled to express our opinions.


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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
Originally Posted By: Cokeley
I hope you didn't puke too much...
Why would I puke? I fully expected a reply from you defending your friend. Your allegiance is to be commended. Fortunately for you, I, and the ranker, due to the sacrifices of many to defend our right for free expression of speech, we are entitled to express our opinions.


BUT . . . only if you can 'validate' them. Grin. ;-)


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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
we are entitled to express our opinions.
Thanks for the rankings Chief & good job. I enjoy looking at them.


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Originally Posted By: luellen
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we are entitled to express our opinions.
Thanks for the rankings Chief & good job. I enjoy looking at them.


I enjoy them and find them accurate and informational. Thank you for your hard work. It is appreciated by many.


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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
Originally Posted By: Cokeley
I hope you didn't puke too much...
Why would I puke? I fully expected a reply from you defending your friend. Your allegiance is to be commended. Fortunately for you, I, and the ranker, due to the sacrifices of many to defend our right for free expression of speech, we are entitled to express our opinions.


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There is a real difference between an opinion and an inflamatory remark. Only you know what your intentions were. I see a personal attack and nothing more. What is your opinion? It seems to me it is only to discredit Eric Johnson.


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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Some observations today at Silver Lake...

1. Congrats to Bryant Guillen. He was dominating in his 10-0 victory over 2nd ranked Trent Salsbury.
Perhaps the 5A ranking coordinator had the 2nd ranked wrestler ranked too high. Who is that ranking coordinator? wink


It could be that one is just head and shoulders above the rest. smile

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Congrats.....You made it almost 2/3 of the season before the Richard/Eric feud spilled over again to the forum.


Good job for making it this far!

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At 113 1. Francka. 2. Cabana ugh 3. Wilson 4. Hensley 5.crow 6. Tyler Irwin Great bracket to watch at silver lake

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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Some observations today at Silver Lake...

3. St. James Academy made a statement. For all of those out there that questioned them being ranked so high in 5A, think again.
Statements such as this are why I hold you in such low regard. You are attempting to validate your own opinion. Make no mistake, Saint James Academy has an outstanding head coach, a very good program and a very good team however your bloviating is nauseating.


Allow me to try and rationalize. I don't think there is any real issue with the ranking at 170lbs or any weight class for that matter.

I can see someone having an issue with the comment quoted above by Chief. To me a ranker is viewed as a neutral third party of the information / data provided. This comment is not representative of someone being neutral.

Yes, you can root for whomever or whatever you want. Just be prepared for a little flack when you are the ranker.

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Thank you lazyman, that is exactly my point as well. And I think it's funny that certain people on here will call out somebody for trying to damage another person's reputation when they do it to people all the time.


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