Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School Catholic Boy Wrestlers may have to forfeit...

If BYU can continuously get around playing the NCAA on Sundays, at least in the early rounds, I am sure similair compromise can be forged. Here, it never stopped Dylan Schumacher.

Dylan was never in a bracket that forced him to forfeit to a girl and not qualify for state.

113 at the Mill Valley 5A regional could have huge ramifications. 20 points at state?

This topic seems to come up every so often. I am Catholic, and wrestled girls different times throughout my wrestling career. I know many other Catholics, and catholic schools that allow their wrestlers to compete if a girl is in their bracket. Myself personally feel this is telling your wrestler that even though you worked your butt off to get to this point, we are going to take it all away because we don’t trust you to just wrestle out there. I also feel it is telling the girl I don’t respect you enough to go toe to toe with you. I know I may get some negative responses to this, but I feel if a girl wants to participate in a predominately male sport, let her, and let the boy go out against her and lets see who is the best wrestler.

I have 2 nieces that wrestle in kids wrestling here in Kansas, and both of them are very competitive in the boys division. I hope if they wrestle later on into middle school and high school, they don’t have to deal with this situation, as they are catholic and if this becomes a big deal it will end most of their wrestling career, as girls wrestling is not an every weekend thing yet in Kansas.

Chief, Chief, Chief, Chief..........

This rule may have prevented Dylan from being a 4xer. Check out his state bracket from the 2009-2010 tournament and then let me know what you think.

Did they not know the rules before they enrolled?

So he pinned the Lakin girl in the first round at state. He was not forced to forfeit to her.

While it is unfortunate that this rule could cost a young man a trip to state or a place on the state medal stand, I do not feel a compromise should be forged! The girls who do this sport work hard and deserve to wrestle and KSHSAA does not have a rule that prevents them from participating. Therefor, Catholic Schools know that when they join KSHSAA the "boys cannot wrestle girls" rule may cost their student-athletes. Furthermore, these boys and families should be aware that the potential is present for this situation to arise. It is certainly unfortunate!

I hope it does not cost a young man an opportunity to qualify and place at state, but if a compromise needs to be made then it is up to the leadership in the Kansas City Diocese to compromise their beliefs and let their boys wrestle girls(which seems to be what the parents in the article are asking for).

By the way, I am Catholic and do not believe it is a sin for a boy to wrestle a girl. If and when my boy starts wrestling, we will wrestle girls if a girl toes the line and my son is ok with it. My children will attend public school so the decision will be up to our family.

Hey Red Storm,

Does the Salina Diocese not have this rule??

I didn't bother to check.

Where does it say in the bible or 10 commandments it is a sin for a boy compete in a sport against a girl.

The commandments dont say that. They also dont explain when life begins, unfortunatley. Its faith and beliefs. When you enroll, you are saying that you are on board.

Without getting into a huge religious debate. . . Let me explain that the Catholic Faith does not just base everything off the Bible. The Catholic Faith asserts that Catholic Church Traditions are equivalent to the Bible when building a platform of faith. In other words, something does not have to be in the Bible or 10 Commandments for it to be a staple of the Catholic Faith.

Faith and beliefs in what? If we are not talking about the bible then what are the Catholic schools talking about? Sounds like man made rules that are disrespecting a female athlete to me.

Thats precisely why Luther bailed

Too late!

Right on Luellen!

Touche Sportsfan, and guys these were rhetorical questions, I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools, was even an alter boy. I am very well aware of Catholic Doctrine. My posts were an attempt to provoke thought for those that support this rule that the Catholic schools have in place. And calling competition between girls and boys in sports a staple of the Catholic faith is a real stretch and probably offensive to most Catholics reading this post.

Talking about whatever they want because they can. If you dont like it, dont send your children to school there. These rules have not just been dreamed in the last week. They have been around for as long as I can remember in the KC and Wichita Diocese.

Here we go....been waiting for Chief to get on his STA and SJA soap box. THIS IS VERY SIMPLY....follow the KSHAA rules or go play somewhere else.