Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School Catholic Boy Wrestlers may have to forfeit...

In the rule book it is NOT called injury default.

Rule 6 Section 4 Art. 4 Any coach of the contestant or the contestant has the prerogative to default a match at any time prior to the conclusion of wrestling by informing the referee.

There is not a requirement to be ill or injured. You can simply default. Everyone was on board with making sure the proper procedure was handled. Mark Lentz was there to approve the instructions and procedure. Both wrestlers checked in to the table and at that time the coach informed the official that the respective wrestler would be defaulting. Proper procedure was followed.

This is NOT the first time this has happened. It occured at the Iowa state tournament last year when a wrestler, not a school, made the decision, because of personal religious preferences, defaulted to her.

This tournament is OVER as this stream should be too.

Will, my apologies. I was incorrect in saying the didn't report. I was looking for the traditional walking to the center of mat and having your hand raised. With all the action yesterday I must have missed them raising the MV wrestlers hand next to the table.

I see nobody to blame except KSHSAA. Bishop Miege was suppose to host the regional tournament. When they found out a girl would be involved they informed the state not only could any of these schools wrestle aginst her but also that they could not even host the event. So my question is what if a school said the same thing about a opponent because of their race or religion. Not only did KSHSAA allow this discrimination to happen but also coached them on how to break the rules to get around it. Discrimination is wrong no matter who it is against and a state organization should have never allowed it to happen.

It is not discrimination. It is a choice. Was the MV wrestler injured because of the decisions? NO! Do we need have an attorney jump on here? NO RULES WERE BROKEN

Section 17 Article 2
Match: A match begins when the proper wrestler reports to the scorer's table in dual matches and tournaments until the conclusion of wrestling. The conclusion of wrestling occurs when the time expires at the end of the third period, when the overtime ends, or when a fall, technical fall, disqualification or a default or forfeit occurs.

Will, Tried to PM you but you are over you limit.


I laughed when you state that "This tournament is OVER as this stream should be too"

You have beat your share of dead horses... so I guess what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Good luck to all at state.

Mark

Definition of DISCRIMINATION

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a : the act of discriminating
b : the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently

Did they treat boys and girl differently?

I must confess to being guilty of beating the dead horse, the goose, and if I could find the gander would be guilty of beating it.

BSD.. perfectly put This should be forwarded by several coaches to the state admins.. all of them

Richard, thank you for posting the article. With the way the story is told no one should take any of it as quick stabs. It is well put and I see it exactly as she puts it. From a lover of the sport, a past wrestler, past coach, and a father of three daughters. Until someone could prove to me that the rules allow this to happen for the better of the sport versus a public way of pushing a different agenda because they can I will always feel the same way as the church and this young man. Thanks again - Tim King

The 18-16 SMS kid got robbed. Have to assume if they had wrestled, the the 18-1 STA kid would have beat the girl in the opening round--setting up STA VS ST James in the seond round. With the loss the girl would have gone to the backside, got a BYE and gone to the loser semi-final match. The other wrestler in the lozers semi should have been the SMS kid, and in all probability would have beat the girl to advance to the 3rd/4th place match and a trip to the state tournament. Both Catholic school wrestlers would have undoubtedly qualified for state--but with iout all of this malarkey!

If anyone was injured it was the SMS wrestler---should have had a match in the backside semi to wrestle the girl. The girl was not hurt--she benefited by being rolled forward to the championship match---and to State..

That is the truly sad part of this whole situation, the consequences of these perfectly legal defaults affected 3 wrestlers and not just the two that defaulted.

WillyM,Thank you for that insight. You may have a future as an investigative journalist

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