Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School Classifications come out tomorrow

What are your predictions for changes?

The "All Class Rankings"

Greg,

You do agree with this, correct?

If a state placing wrestler that had not reported their expected weight, does confirm to me their intentions, should I leave them off entirely or enter them at that intended weight? Your post seems to suggest that I should leave them out and that the AC ranking should be less accurate.

Which is it?

CLASSIFICATIONS!!!!

http://www.kshsaa.org/Public/PDF/Classifications13.pdf

Class Number of Schools Range Schools Changing Class
6A 32 2258-1357
Shawnee Mission-South (5A)

5A 32 1336-737
Pittsburg (4A)
Topeka-Highland Park (4A)
Wichita-Heights (6A)

4A 64 734-251
Andover-Central (5A)
Burlington (3A)
Russell (3A)
Scott Community (3A)
Shawnee Mission-Bishop Miege (5A)

3A 64 249-156
Alma-Wabaunsee (2A)
Arma-Northeast (2A)
Hesston (4A)
Oskaloosa (2A)
Prairie Village-Kansas City Christian (2A)
St. George-Rock Creek (4A)
Wichita-Collegiate (4A)

Anyone in USD 259 out there? Did the opening of the magnet school lower the number's for wichita hieghts?

There was not an new opening of a Magnet school. NE Magnet, which has existed for years, was moved to a multi-million dollar building originally built (2 miles East of Heights) to be another comprehensive high school. After the school was built, and a new budget for schools came out, it was discovered that USD 259 could not afford to fully staff, buy technology, desks, supplies, etc and therefore NE Magnet was moved and is using 1/2 of this building.

In doing so, NE Magnet also did decide to take more kids along with USD 259 re-drew the district boundaries and sent a huge portion of our Hispanic population to Wichita North. We do not offer an ESOL program at Heights either, so they naturally would go to North who does.

In summary, NE Magnet is taking more kids and the District moved a lot of our kids to Wichita North.

In a hurry so I hope this makes sense...

Also pay attention to this for the Future:

Maize High will be 5A in Football only and Wichita West will be 6A Football only next year. So when a new count is done next year, you could see that change as well.

Coach Church

Thanks for the info. City league just got more interesting!

Wrestling:GWAL (City League)
5A Heights, Carroll, Kapaun, W.West
6A South, North, East, Southeast, Northwest

Football for seasons of 2014 & 2015:
http://www.kshsaa.org/Public/Football/PDF/Football%20Classifications13.pdf

2013-14 All Other Activities (NOT football):
http://www.kshsaa.org/Public/PDF/Classifications13.pdf

I would like to point out that with all the crying about small 4A schools having to compete with these GIANT HUGE 4A schools in football, basketball etc...that the two most dominate programs in 4A football over the last several years are DII....

A very good point.

Will the wrestling 4A DI and 4A DII divisions/schools be the same schools as the listed in the PDF for 4A DI and DII football----same same for basketball, etc. I would think they would be the same. Do not see a 4A DI and DII breakdown for sports other than football.

If there are schools who do not participate in a particular sport, will they shuffle the schools to fill the higher classifications. I think the old 64 school 4A class for wrestling actually had only 61 or 62 schools?????

Derby 1919
Dodge City 1854
Garden City 2024
Hutchinson 1487
Junction City 1737
Maize 1387
Manhattan 1638
Wichita-East 2258
Wichita-Haysville Campus 1546
Wichita-North 2071
Wichita-Northwest 1415
Wichita-South 1601
Wichita-Southeast 1570

JOHNSON COUNTY
Gardner-Edgerton 1406
Olathe East 2046
Olathe North 2025
Olathe Northwest 1929
Olathe South 2090
OP-Blue Valley 1449
OP-Blue Valley North 1512
OP-Blue Valley Northwest 1593
OP-Blue Valley West 1357
Shawnee Mission East 1653
Shawnee Mission North 1500
Shawnee Mission Northwest 1752
Shawnee Mission South 1364
Shawnee Mission West 1755

TOPEKA AND EAST
Kansas City-Wyandotte 1444
Lawrence 1465
Lawrence-Free State 1555
Topeka 1739
Topeka-Washburn Rural 1817


Since the inception of the 6A Class in 1979 only two Johnson County High Schools have won a title, Blue Valley 1997 and the 2005 STA team. That is 2 out of 35... With 14 of the 32 schools being from Johnson County it seems that we need to challenge our wrestlers and coaches to break free from their traditional scheduling and training. It isn't working. We cannot get any better unless we all work together and plan. Without change there will be no improvement and all of you know this means that some of the change might be painful or a struggle to pull off. It is a simple equation for me, it is all about the kids and teaching them to aim for perfection in hopes of achieving some excellence along the way. Being stubborn and excluding or not changing because you are holding onto some ridiculous "tradition" is NOT going to improve your program.

Just to expand this position a little, you can draw a line just west of Topeka where you will find 50% of the population living on each side and just over 59% of the 6A schools and you will still only get two state champions since 1979.

5A
Andover 794
Arkansas City 775
Emporia 1103
Goddard 795
Goddard-Eisenhower 862
Great Bend 958
Hays 737
Liberal 1237
Maize South 764
Newton 1020
Salina-Central 988
Salina-South 1064
Valley Center 838
Wichita-Bishop Carroll 1170
Wichita-Heights 1304
Wichita-Kapaun Mount Carmel 880
Wichita-West 1336


Kansas City-FL Schlagle 812
Kansas City-JC Harmon 1265
Kansas City-Turner 1090
Kansas City-Washington 990
Lansing 879
Leavenworth 1334
Lenexa-St. James Academy 797
OP-Blue Valley Southwest 1059
OP-St. Thomas Aquinas 905
Pittsburg 771
Shawnee-Mill Valley 1290
Tecumseh-Shawnee Heights 1136
Topeka West 922
Topeka-Highland Park 755
Topeka-Seaman 1202
We can continue this argument into 5A as well where you will find that nearly 47% of the 5A schools are east of this mythical wrestle talent dividing wall.

Eastern KS schools are not fairing much better in 5A either going just 3 for 32. Does anyone disagree that this is a bit embarrassing???

It is time to CHANGE. We need to wake up and challenge our athletic directors, coaches, wrestlers, and parents to do things differently. Think outside of the box called the past and figure out some new plans. Make your schedule tougher. Walk the halls and grab those kids that are not a part of anything now. Figure out ways to get more kids involved like scheduling more tournaments and fielding two teams. "He is not ready for varsity" is the biggest crock of crap you can try to sell. If you have wrestlers at every weight then bring ALL of them! I guarantee you they will NOT get any better sitting at home playing X Box. USA Wrestling is offering a $300 deal to get ALL of your wrestlers a card. When KSHSAA season is over send them to the nearest kids club and tell them to wrestle in the USA Kids State Series. If you are afraid of what is happening in your kids club then get involved! It is time for the excuses to be put in the round file and lets develop some solutions (and by the way, OPEN MAT is not a solution!). Lets tip the scale and bring two state championship trophies EAST of that mythical line this year and every year hereafter!

Welcome back to 4a Scott Comm and Russell, should be fun!