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Just a couple of things I saw this weekend that could cause some problems for wrestlers concerning KSHSAA.

High School Wrestlers Can NOT wear their High School Singlets. I know coaches are trying to help the wrestlers out but it is against KSHSAA rules for wrestlers to wrestle in their High School Singlets.

High School Head Coaches can not coach 8th graders through 11th graders. They may coach Seniors since they will not be coaching them next year.

I saw both of these violations this weekend and although I would not report this to KSHSAA, pictures, video, and other multi-media venues could cause unwanted problems for Teams, Coaches, and Programs.

Good Luck to everyone this weekend.


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Then why bring it up. Sometimes you need to remain silent, rather than stirring up crap.

Who cares what singlet is being worn.

You're not excluded, either.

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And WHO made Beeson the ruler of KANSAS wrestling?? Give the kids a break.

NOBODY HAS EVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH THIS IN THE PAST!!!!

Why now??? Does a singlet really matter?? Maybe that's all they own.

You NEED TO USE YOUR HEAD AND COMMON SENSE.

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Our club OWNS one of the same singlet designs that the high school wears?
So you'll have to guess if he's wearing a club singlet or a high school singlet.

Good stuff!!


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Another stupid kansas rule. How does wearing a singlet benefit a program?

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I think its perfectly fine for Beeson to point these things out. We all agree the rules are mostly pointless, but its good to at least know if you're doing something wrong. Don't hate on a guy if he knows more than you.

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Originally Posted By: Spexy
Then why bring it up. Sometimes you need to remain silent, rather than stirring up crap.

Who cares what singlet is being worn.

You're not excluded, either.

Because it's the kid who gets punished with the loss of high school eligibility if caught. The kids probably don't know about these rules, nor should they. So it's up to us to keep them informed. And as Chad said, it's KSHSAA who cares.

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We can almost all agree that the singlet rule is stupid but it is a rule. There are some I guarantee you don't know its a rule and Beeson is doing the right thing by reminding everyone.

No reason risking eligibility issues with KSHSAA simply because they may not know the rule. If you do know the rule and choose to ignore it then you accept that risk of the consequences if they come down.

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Well what about MS kids practicing with HS during HS season? Isn't that against the rules of kshsaa


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I have followed this forum for a long time but have never posted. But this is a topic that several of us have been discussing the last couple of weeks. Just didn't want to stir up a hornet's nest by bringing it up. All I'm going to say is it has been noticed and wondered about out here in District 4. With both high school and middle school kids.

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Originally Posted By: Spexy
Then why bring it up. Sometimes you need to remain silent, rather than stirring up crap.

Who cares what singlet is being worn.

You're not excluded, either.


KSHSAA cares. I know I'm not excluded, I am just trying to help people out so the kids don't get punished for the ignorance of coaches like yourself. You either did not know the rule or didn't care and broke it on purpose. One makes you ignorant, One makes you an idiot. Which are you Spexy, Ignorant or an Idiot?

Everyone else took it as a friendly reminder to protect the kids.


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Originally Posted By: Jeremy Molloy
Well what about MS kids practicing with HS during HS season? Isn't that against the rules of kshsaa


It is against the rules. Any program allowing this is breaking the rules and running the risk of the kids and programs being punished.


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Beeson,
What about a high school coach coaching his own son? Does the same rule apply

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Yes I know just wanted to make sure you knew for sure and everyone else reading this since it wasn't mentioned


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I will answer for beeson HS coach is allowed to coach his own son


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Ok thank you wanted to make sure

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Every one want to help kids wrestling,why not change this crap. Like I have stated many times,if the HS teacher wanted to help ANY kid with math every one would think it was great. But in sports the leaders do not want kids to get extra help IN ANY WAY.Unless it involves cash.Kshsaa is nuts in some of the crap rules they put on HS coaches+kids.


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Agree with you totally, CWB. But.... if my school makes it clear to our coaches they can't have contact, work with and coach our kids and other schools are ignoring it, that's not fair. I wish KSHSAA would change the rules, but until they do everyone should have to follow them.

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Hawkfan79 The people/boys that push the rules are the ones getting the best rewards.It is just like taxes,the more loopholes you use the better. I hate to say things like this but if we are lead by people that cannot think straight ,we need to use any and every loop hole. KSHSAA is not there for the best kids they are there to try to make every one equal.That will never happen and should never be tried. They should pat the boys on the back that want more.

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There is a difference between pushing the rules and blatantly breaking them out in the open. Pick your battles, wearing a singlet at a tournament after season. Having your high school coach sit in the corner of matches after season. These are blatant public displays that will only hurt the kids or coaches if they are reported or KSHSAA shows up. Having a High School Coach in attendance and giving advice after the match one on one with the wrestler is pushing the rules legally and benefit the wrestlers. Be smart gentlemen, the ole kiss my ass I'll do what I want attitude is not always the best way to go.


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