Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School Goodard Regional

Ok,
But you're putting a college ref into a high school event.

I'm pretty sure a lot of refs have done both. But they also can determine between high school and college.

If this is the road we are going down, then have KSHSAA, pay for or each regional pay for college refs. So everyone is on an equal playing field.

Make it fair to the wrestlers, going from one ref to another. Least he'll know, each and every match.

And I'm sorry, college rules are different than high school.

Stalling is Stalling no matter college or High School. Those rules are not different, for the most part. I only say that for one reason but it gets lengthy and really doesnt matter.

Most coaches want stalling called more often, as can be seen from this thread. You're the o my one speaking against it. Instead of criticising, we need to be thanking him and asking others to emulate him.

They call stalling in Oklahoma very similar to how Alex called it this weekend. Great Job!

Post the video of the match. Show us how wrong he was.

I think I have to disagree with you on all officials calling everything the exact same. That is not going to happen no matter what level of wrestling you are in. I think you are the one who said good or top notch wrestlers size up their opponents, well I believe those same wrestlers should be be able to adjust in the difference in officiating.

Again my opinion.

i was always told growing up never leave it in the hands of the ref to decide the match. Adjust to the calls and work with it. Alex is a damn good ref!!!

One rule change i would like to see is finshing takedowns on the edge of the circle. I have watched so many times the ref has to argue with coaches and even discuss with other refs if the knee or foot was in or out of the circle. I watch so many kids wrestle the edge of the circle. Would it not help out everyone involved and maybe take some relief off the refs if this rule was changed. most full mats have 3-4 feet of mat for safety concerns outside of the circle. I think this is the way college calls it. If we are preparing our kids for that next level dont we kind of need to be using the same rules or at least some of them.

I remember getting hit for stalling in the finals of my conference tournament my senior year, I was stalling, he (Jim Ramirez) made the right call, his reasoning he told me "you are better than that", he was right!

So much of stalling is vague. The call is always arbitrary. No two guys are ever going to call it exactly the same. And as far as it being called quickly and consistently at the next level I think you're sadly mistaken. I attended the biggest college dual of the year Sunday and it was definitely not called with any kind of consistency there. Just my two cents...

Your statement proves my point. No officials are going to be the exact same at any level. But as I stated generally speaking stalling is called much quicker at the next level, so why not prepare our HS wrestlers for that now so they know what's expected of them at the next level.

Lance

I agree it should be called more quickly. Most officials problem is they call it different in the third period than they do in the first. There are several things I think are stalling that some may not, and there are some that I don't think are that are called a lot. The problem is there are too few clear cut "stalling" calls in the rule book. It's a judgement call. Hard to argue whether one is right or wrong. And I don't think asking for a clarification for why it was called should be an automatic warning.