Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?
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#1 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #1 gowrestle
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Posted Yesterday, 08:21 PM
The best kids now go 12 months. No doubt they have driven average wrestlers away which has led to a significant growth in forfeits. What’s interesting is that many well known high school coaches talk about the benefits of participating in multiple sports but those same coaches benefit from having the wrestling specialist on their teams. Additionally, these are the kids that are being recruited heavily.
There may be 4 or 5 college teams that draw high crowds for their meets. College wrestling is dying a slow invisible death.
The year round wrestler is like nitrogen fertilizers. Those lawns in suburban America sure look nice and green but the nitrogen finds it’s way into streams and bays and has contributed to the destruction of many fishing and shellfish industries.
I’ve been out of high school coaching for over 25 years. I had a couple of kids during my career that at that time wrestled year round and did well on the mat. But now looking at my former wrestlers, those that have had great success in their family and professional lives did 2 or 3 sports and were decent students.
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#2 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #2 TobusRex
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Posted Yesterday, 08:54 PM
If their talent for wrestling is high enough it probably doesn't matter that much. On a general level the year round kids will probably be sharper. But I bet they burn out quicker, too.
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#3 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #3 Eagle26
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Posted Yesterday, 10:09 PM
Sport specialization has become a problem in all sports, but more so in wrestling because there is so much technique involved that the year round wrestler really does have a huge advantage. It definitely does drive the avg kids away, but unfortunately I don't see a viable solution. With the exception of upper weights (where so many are football players tha wrestle), it takes an incredible athlete to partipate in multiple sports and compete with the year round wrestler. If you want to wrestle in college, you almost have to wrestle year round. As a high school coach, I still promote the multi sport athlete because if I didn't I would have 3 kids on the team. I believe coaches of all sports need to come together and promote this and the only exceptions should be the rare kid that can legitimately get a scholarship. In my experience, your lucky to have one kid per year in the school who this applies to. Problem is we have all these crazy parents that want to start this in youth wrestling because they all believe their kid is going to be the rare one to get a scholarship. And I just don't see a way to stop these parents because they are right in what it takes to get a scholarship... They are just wrong about their kids athletic ability and/or work ethic/determination. The tough kids benefit from this and the majority burn out. What can you do?
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#4 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #4 xander
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Posted Today, 12:06 AM
Year round wrestling killed my relationship with my son
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#5 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #5 Plasmodium
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Posted Today, 12:29 AM
xander, on 21 Jan 2018 - 07:06 AM, said:
Year round wrestling killed my relationship with my son
How did it do that?
#6 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #6 AllISeeIsBronze
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Plasmodium, on 21 Jan 2018 - 07:29 AM, said:
How did it do that?
No disrespect intended towards Xander, but given what he said, I suspect maybe pushing his son to pursue wrestling year-round led to burnout and resentment. I've seen that a few times, including one where the kid (who beat the s*** out of me in HS) ran away from his home after qualifying for state. Whatever the case, I hope Xander's relationship with his son is on better terms.
#7 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #7 tec87
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Posted Today, 12:46 AM
Metcalf had a really good series of posts like a year or two on his Instagram I think. It was about how good it is for kids to not specialize at a young age. He posted like a pic a day for 4-5 days of him doing stuff other than wrestling like soccer, karate, baseball, etc. then talking about playing football through HS where he was like all-district in football.
Edit: here are Brent’s posts on the other sports he did.
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#8 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #8 xander
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Posted Today, 01:01 AM
It is definitely my fault (I take full responsibility)
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#9 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #9 xander
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Posted Today, 01:03 AM
My son was football. Swimming (club and summer). Base ball. Even soccer. But at like age 11 or 12 it was only wrestling. Free. Folk. Greco
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#10 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #10 xander
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Posted Today, 01:08 AM
It is difficult to pin point where it all went wrong. But one thing led to another. Started making podium at many “national” 12-14 year old age group. Made Tulsa finals as 8th grader. Then in high school “upset” many upper class man who placed previously. ..... anyway, he is a junior now. We have a VERY strained relationship. Don’t talk at all. It’s very depressing.
Again , I take full responsibility— we traveled all over the United States hitting every tournament possible.
Again. My fault. I just wish I could change things
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#11 Year Round Wrestler Killing Sport?: post #11 paboom
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Posted Today, 01:33 AM
Eagle26, on 21 Jan 2018 - 05:09 AM, said:
Sport specialization has become a problem in all sports, but more so in wrestling because there is so much technique involved that the year round wrestler really does have a huge advantage. It definitely does drive the avg kids away, but unfortunately I don't see a viable solution. With the exception of upper weights (where so many are football players tha wrestle), it takes an incredible athlete to partipate in multiple sports and compete with the year round wrestler. If you want to wrestle in college, you almost have to wrestle year round. As a high school coach, I still promote the multi sport athlete because if I didn't I would have 3 kids on the team. I believe coaches of all sports need to come together and promote this and the only exceptions should be the rare kid that can legitimately get a scholarship. In my experience, your lucky to have one kid per year in the school who this applies to. Problem is we have all these crazy parents that want to start this in youth wrestling because they all believe their kid is going to be the rare one to get a scholarship. And I just don't see a way to stop these parents because they are right in what it takes to get a scholarship... They are just wrong about their kids athletic ability and/or work ethic/determination. The tough kids benefit from this and the majority burn out. What can you do?
While this may be true with some parents, here in PA it is becoming a norm and a reality if your son ever wants to get to the state tournament in any age level with scholarships way on the mental backburner. I see a lot if kids choosing specialization because of this and not the parents. There are kids who are ultra competitive.
All of it could be solved by eliminating all state and national tournaments aged 10 and under.
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