Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School Ducking competition

With people obviously forfeiting to position themselves for state here is the question. What would happen if both wrestlers were to forfeit a regional match.

With the draws at each weight being random and unknown, I guess I'm not sure how forfeiting would position someone for state!

You can easily assume who will win your regional and position yourself in 4th place to avoid that wrestler at state.

In 5A and 6A with there only being 2 regionals it's not hard to figure out who your going to wrestle at state.

I don't know if any of the forfeits at regionals had to do with that or just tough wrestling and a kid is a little banged up and the coach doesn't want them to get hurt anymore.

I agree, but it's a good question nonetheless. Let's just say hypothetically; what would happen if both wrestlers going for 3rd inj out/forfeited? How would they be seated at state?

The way I understand it is, the Ark City regional was 1-2 hours behind the other region. Now common sense and smartphones say that even an idiot can figure where to position themselves

It is what it is! Luke was giving up 30 pounds to the young man who won state last year. If I had it to do over again I would have had Luke default to forth so we could have him in the semifinals. Luke would have won easy. No matter the rules people are going to try to take advantage. Life!!

Good Luck to everyone this week!

Tom

To me it's just as cowardly as laying down to win a match off an illegal move when you're not injured.

Easy fix would be to have 4 regionals for 5a and 6a. Each regional would have 8 teams and take top 4 finishers. Run 8 man scramble brackets. Then blind draw the state seeds like 321-A does. Regional 3 vs regional 2 and regional 1 vs regional 4 for a 16 man bracket at state.

Because I fully agree that it is currently very easy to figure out in 5a and 6a where everyone will land on the bracket.

The original question remains unanswered. How will the 2 wrestlers that inj defaulted/forfeited their 3rd place match be seated at state? Anyone have any idea? Thanks!!

My guess is a coin flip!

J. Dale, I hear what you are saying and respect it. I realize our situation last year is not the same as this year, however manipulating the system and getting a doctors note to cut that much weight is a problem also. Solution is same day weigh in.

Jeff, I assume your question is rhetorical unless I’m missing something. 4th!!

Tom it’s not a rhetorical question but don’t have anyone in mind either. Just one of those questions that made me ponder especially now that 5a & 6a have only 2 regionals and it makes it easier to manupliate state seedings. Coin flip makes the most sense I guess as you can’t have 2 4th.

Would think there has to be (or soon will be) a kashaa rule for this scenario.

Take care.

Right is right and wrong is wrong. It also has to do with integrity. Get better, work harder and kick your opponents ass on the mat. Dodging competition in any way is cowardly and winning a match by layng down on illegal move is even worse.

Do we have any evidence this actually occurred? Or is this another "sky is falling" thread?

Luckily it worked out but here is a terribly real scenario that happened at an NAIA qualifier last week. Top 2 from a weight qualify for 149...kid drew a pigtail, won a couple, lost and got thrown on the back...ran the table including 3rd place match. Didn't wrestle the runner up and should have been able to challenge for the automatic qualifying position in a true 2nd...but, he hit 6 match limit. Kid wound up wildcarded in, but there are some crazy situations happening out there.

6a 113

which quadrant.... 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. That way you don't name a kid...but we can do deductive thought process on it.

Look it up just 2 regionals

The Washburn Rural coaching staff had a long conversation about this on Friday night of regionals. There are certainly some spots where it would have been better in the long-term to injury default the medal matches, and to be honest, I was torn about which way to go. Ultimately, we decided that we drove all the way to Garden City to wrestle, not to duck anyone, so we sent our guys out there to compete.