Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School best heavyweight in state history

who is the best heavyweight in kansas history? i don't know of very many, so i would say UBben, but i'm sure there are others that are better

He is a good wrestler. But for the old guys out there will remember the Maddens from Effingham. I don't remember which one was the best I just rember they were all very good.

In random order

1 Steve Nave Coffeyville
2 Les Miller Ark City
3 Jeff Boyle Norton

Pound for pound, I would have to go with Witt Hinton from Baldwin. He is quite a bit smaller than most heavy weights, but he over powered them with his strength.

My vote has to go to Jeff Boyle from Norton, he totally dominated his division for three years, especially his senior year which I believe he pinned everyone. Plus he has several national championships in freestyle and greco. Just because he didn't pursue wrestling in college doesn't mean he wasn't the best heavyweigt.

ubben

UBBEN

Jeff Boyle won a state title at 189 as a soph, at 215 as a junior and at 275 as a senior. He had an incredible mix of speed and technique and his strength was without equal. He won his match in the Dapper Dan Classic to earn the title as the nation's best high school heavyweight in 1997. Many college coaches were projecting him to make an immediate impact at the NCAA Div I level had he chosen to wrestle in college.

He made an absolute mockery of his weight class as a senior and was close to untouchable at 215 as a junior.

Ubben is a great wrestler who has a bright collegiate career ahead of him and I intend him no disrespect, but I would have to go with Boyle in a head-to-head match-up.

Jeff Boyle is one of the very best Hwts. to come out of Kansas. He was Selected by every wrestling magazine as the Nations best Hwt. in 1997. He is the only Hwt in Ks history to wrestling in the Dapper Dan Classic (Dual meet between a USA All-Star Team vs. Penn. Team). Jeff dominated his opponents at the national level more than any hwt I have ever seen. He did not wrestle like your normal Hwt.

A few other good heavys to come out of Ks. are in no order.
Steve Nave-Coffeyville
Les Miller-Ark City
Jerry Corner-Wichita West
Mitch Schlepp-St. Francis
Larry Grieve-Osborne (I know that he was selected as an All-American by AWN, other might have been also, but I can't remember).

I heard that Boyle not only dominated his opponents, but was pretty hard on his high school coach, as well.

Ubben

most definately-UBBEN

Coach Johnson,
Correct me if I am wrong, but Boyle only placed 2nd at Juniro National Grecco. Not even a freestlye placer. Beltran WON grecco at juniors, and the year before got 5th in Freestlye. How can you say you have never seen a more dominant heavyweight than boyle? Did you not witness first hand Steve Mocco winning his 4th Junior title and never allowing a point to be scored in those 4 years. That sounds more dominating than Mr. Boyle

beltran was a good one... but I think ubben is better, ryan fraizer is another good one who knows what he would have done if he would have wrestled 4 years.

Nathan Baker from Parsons was a formidable heavyweight his senior and junior years. Undefeated his senior year and 3rd his junior year. He was even a late starter to wrestling. He made short work of Witt Hinton in the semifinals at state.

If it comes down to who hails from Kansas that went on to compete & perform at the HIGHEST LEVEL in the HEAVYWEIGHT division then we have to recognize the accomplishments of the young man & friend of mine that took me out as the winningest wrestler at HIAWATHA High School. I am talking about JEREMY LAY. Jeremy placed 4th in HS at heavyweight his Sophomore year wrestling up from about 187 lbs... as our 185 lb senior Kris Mengarelli placed 2nd in State. Jeremy could have actually chosen to compete at that weight but,.. as a team player he chose to move up. The following 2 years he placed 1ST & 2ND in STATE at 189 lbs. As is the case with many wrestlers it was when he went to College at MIZZOU that he grew into a man. I was a couple years older & could go toe to toe with him in High School & remember thinking how bad we was when our bench was a little over 300 but when I gave him a try a couple years later he was a MAN and an ANIMAL that liked to rip my head off & was benching closer to 500. Jeremy also happens to be Kansas highest placing Heavyweight HIGH SCHOOL ALL-AMERICAN placing 2ND in 1990. Jeremy also had the privilege of wrestling recent Olympic hero RULON GARDNER while Rulon competed for the Huskers of Nebraska. Jeremy went on to accomplish great heights because of his desire & work ethic,.. eventually becoming the Big 8 Heavyweight Champion. Lets not forget that includes..Oklahoma, OSU, Nebraska & Iowa State! He concluded his career as an NCAA DIVISION *1* ALL-AMERICAN placing 5TH and was chosen as a co-recipient of the Kansas Wrestling Coaches Associations --- COLLEGE WRESTLER OF THE YEAR from Kansas. If you can't take my word then ask Rulon Gardner or one of.. if not the best ever Kansas wrestler ERIC AKIN what they think of my ol' buddy Jeremy Lay. ....### Just to think... I used to call him JV Lay cause he only wrestled a portion of the year at Varsity his Freshman year going 14-1 and beating many State Qualifiers & ..get this...make him drop & give me push-ups in the hallway at school back in the day to make him tough, lol ! ### I can say this....if there is one better out there to speak of then he is going to have to prove it at the next level ..as JEREMY LAY has done!!! :p

Here is my top 5

1. Jeff Boyle
2. Beltran
3 Jay Eillers
4. Andrew Ubben
5 Mich Slept

1. ubben
2. boyle
3. beltran
4. frazier

I personally would have gone with Jeff Boyle, he was an absolute animal in everything he did. Im sorry but I have seen and wrestled with Jerimiah Beltran and he would not have lasted a period with Boyle. Ubben was good also but not the calibre of Boyle

He might not have been the best, but entertaining none the less...John Paul Shepherd.