Prant, the reason that i called the ref "Phil Margera ref" was because he looked a little more hefty than Al Borland. But I have to agree, Richard Karn got robbed for the "best supporting actor in a movie with a skateboarding chimp" Oscar for his work in MVP2. Did the Popeye ref happen to have pictures of heavy machinery (jackhammers, engines, etc.) appear on his arms after eating the spinach?