Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School toughest league CTL/AVL Bar none

Trant Cox 103 Andale 4A 9th 2nd
Zach Peters 103 Augusta 4A 9th 5th
Chad Harding 103 Winfield 5A 10th 6th
Micah Ankenman 103 Hutchinson 6A 11th 3rd
Garrett Gage 112 Mulvane 4A 11th 1st
Ryan Canale 112 Rose Hill 4A 11th 5th
Devin Slane 112 Andover 4A 12th 6th
Trison Graham 112 Arkansas City 5A 10th 1st
Mark Zivala 112 Wich. Hay. Campus 6A 12th 4th
Tyler Caldwell 112 Goddard 6A 9th 5th
Cale Demel 119 El Dorado 4A 10th 3rd
Dustin Bowen 119 Rose Hill 4A 11th 4th
Dalton Caldwell 119 Salina Central 5A 12th 4th
Blake Fisher 125 Andale 4A 12th 2nd
Ryan Salee 125 Valley Center 5A 11th 6th
Russell Freeman 125 Goddard 6A 12th 4th
Brent Fisher 130 Andale 4A 10th 1st
Wes Barrett 130 El Dorado 4A 12th 2nd
Nick Northern 130 Salina South 5A 12th 1st
Kirk Godfrey 130 Arkansas City 5A 11th 4th
Chase Moses 130 Goddard 6A 12th 3rd
Brandon Imel 130 Hutchison 6A 12th 5th
Jess Lee 135 Andover Central 4A 10th 4th
Thomas Pipes 135 Winfield 5A 12th 2nd
Dallas Nelson 135 McPherson 5A 11th 5th
Brad Traina 135 Goddard 6A 12th 1st
Danny Dawson 140 Wellington 4A 12th 6th
Levi Sides 140 McPherson 5A 12th 3rd
Aaron Hynick 145 Rose Hill 4A 11th 2nd
Jayme Hoover 145 Salina South 5A 11th 2nd
Romero Cotten 145 Hutchison 6A 9th 1st
Nathan Thibault 145 Maize 6A 11th 2nd
Brandon Bonewell 145 Goddard 6A 10th 3rd
Scott Elliot 152 Augusta 4A 10th 1st
Judd Schroeder 152 Andale 4A 11th 2nd
Nick Barnes 152 Valley Center 5A 12th 3rd
Boaz Beard 152 Goddard 6A 9th 3rd
Todd Bullinger 152 Derby 6A 11th 6th
Nate Alvarez 160 Salina South 5A 12th 3rd
Kirk Fairley 160 Derby 6A 11th 1st
Zach Hentzen 160 Maize 6A 11th 2nd
John Chrisman 160 Wich. Hay. Campus 6A 12th 4th
Pete Eck 171 Andale 4A 10th 2nd
Beau Williams 171 Valley Center 5A 12th 2nd
Anthony Fiorillo 171 Salina South 5A 12th 5th
Ben Evans 171 Hutchison 6A 10th 4th
Jake Clark 189 Buhler 4A 11th 5th
Cint Bruce 189 Arkansas City 5A 10th 5th
Chad Posch 189 Goddard 6A 11th 3rd
Atticus Disney 215 Andover Central 4A 10th 1st
Jared Siemer 215 Rose HIll 4A 12th 5th
Jordan Pfenninger 215 Buhler 4A 12th 6th
Elijah Madison 275 Salina Central 5A 10th 2nd
Justin Naccarato 275 Valley Center 5A 12th 3rd
Micheal Chavez 275 Derby 6A 12th 6th

This is one of those questions that could be debated forever and no answer ever found. However another league that needs consiered is the NWKL. St. Francis, Atwood, Oberlin, Oakley, Colby, Goodland, Quinter and Hoxie. Nearly every team a perennial 3-2-1A and 4A powerhouse.

The NWKL is composed 8 teams, the CTL/AVL is composed of 24 teams. I know it's comparing apples to oranges, but it seems per capita the ratio in the NWKL appears better. 54 ranked wrestlers from CTL/AVL (Madison is gone so you cannot count him) divided between the 24 teams equals to be 2.25 ranked wreslers per team. 26 ranked wrestlers represent the 8 NWKL teams, giving you a 3.25 ranked wrestlers per team ratio. They are just figures not based upon anything.

Trevor Richard 119 2nd
Dylan Lloyd 135 1st
Justin Sherlock 140 5th
Jordan Gienger 145 3rd
Brennan Wilger 275 2nd
Matt Migchelbrink 119 3rd
Jonathan Richards 140 2nd
Denton Bailer 152 4th
Scott Miller 160 3rd
Terry Urban 171 5th
Brock Euhus 275 4th
Steve Samuelson 112 5th
Kelly Younkin 145 5th
Kyle Rietchek 189 1st
Aaron Racette 215 4th
Bryan Brewer 103 3rd
Cole Garcia 140 1st
Taylor Finley 152 4th
Brett Bahe 119 1st
AJ Stephans 135 2nd
Jon Cook 160 2nd
Josiah Goodley 189 4th
Bobby Doxon 275 4th
Tyler Baker 130 1st
Michael Schamberger 152 1st
Tim Erwin 215 3rd

Since the CTL/AVL has 24 teams and very few leagues have that many, lets even the odds a bit and make them face the NWKL and NCKL combined team (NCKL: Abilene, Clay Center, Chapman, Wamego, Concordia, Marysville).

Thats all pretty good but I am guessing that somebody forgot to catch you all up to speed Nick Nothern is wrestling at 125 not 130

acbulldog,
Unless I am mistaken this thread was about the toughest league. What does having a dual between a league with 8 teams and one with 24 have to do with anything? A league is a team concept comprised of towns. You printed up individuals in a dual. Not a bad idea but the wrong thread.

this isn't about a dual? did you not understand that? You showed all the ranked guys from the CTL/AVL league, I just showed the NWKL and some stuipd numbers....

I think it's a lost cause Bronco.

as I said it was just stupid numbers... they mean nothing... I didn't say they were better, I said they looked better on paper... and just to remind you this is NOT about a dual(el)!

Actually I officiated the Atwood Kid's Wrestling Tournament today, so I am already off work.

Pure number wise Bronco wrestler has the upper hand here with a 3.25 vs a 2.25. Minus Maddison Salina Central but you have to add Furches from Derby. Although it only improves the number to 2.29

yea i know look at their easy competition i mean there's all those easy nwkl schools out there and norton and all those colorado teams wow. Seriously dude some of those schools travel to colorado and nebraska and face state champs and you tell me that isn't competition

You are so right acbulldog. Anyone in the wrestling community knows that Western Kansas has no real talent and no real competition. I mean come on, everyone knows that kids from Norton, Colby, Goodland, Hoxie, Oberlin, Scott City, Garden City ect. don't know how to wrestle. Oh and don't forget about the NCKL teams. I hear they are a bunch of pushovers too with teams such as Concordia, Abilene and Clay Center.
In all reality, you really need to get out of your little corner of the state and go west young man. Then you can judge.

acbulldog your opinion is taking a beating on here. Seems a lot more ppl. think the NWKL and NCKL is a tougher league. I am now LOL about the comment about those kids not wrestling tough competition. Were you actually serious?

How about anothe kind of dual. An All-Star dual. West vs East. East wouldn't have a snowballs chance....

How about anothe kind of dual. An All-Star dual. West vs East. East wouldn't have a snowballs chance....

How about another kind of dual. An All-Star dual. West vs East. East wouldn't have a snowballs chance....

Thats a crazy comment. East is just as good. Where is East/West anyway for clarification?

Nice triple post.

yes, because we all know that as soon as you go west of wichita, everybody is a farmer, and they herd goats/sheep.