Bigpin: I apologize for my inference that Hoxie didn't win because of their size. They didn't win because they didn't compete at all the weights and manhattan did. in spite of that, Manhattan didn't win, either. My statemant was not an excuse-- it was a statement of the FACT that 14 is bigger than less than 14 and Hoxie did more with the oppurtunities that they had.
