Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School big schools vs small schools

Big schools being 6a 5a small schools being 4a 123a
Big small
103 Furches Derby Hase Silver Lake
112 Shumate BVNW Gage Mulvane
119 Deshazer WW Madden Norton or Bahe Goodland
125 Somers LFS Fisher Andale
130 Northern SS Baker Hoxie
135 Pipes Win. Ellison Columbus
140 Grape Lansing Garcia Colby
145 Thibault Maize Pyle Sabetha
152 Loos BC Elliott Augusta
160 Jonas Kapaun Roe Norton
171 Kellerman Law Erisman Desoto
189 Civils Lansing Strawn Holton
215 Espinosa Ottawa Disney Andover Central
275 Payne Paola Roberts Holton

I think you need to check some of your weights Deshazer is at 130 also @ 112 Caldwell of Goddard 140 Hentzen Maize

Yeah I just pulled them off the rankings. 6A must still fouled up.

Big schools being 6a 5a small schools being 4a 123a
Big small
103 Furches Derby Hase Silver Lake
112 Shumate BVNW Gage Mulvane
119 ?????????? Madden Norton or Bahe Goodland
125 Somers LFS Fisher Andale
130 Deshazer WW Baker Hoxie
135 Pipes Win. Ellison Columbus
140 Grape Lansing Garcia Colby
145 Thibault Maize Pyle Sabetha
152 Loos BC Elliott Augusta
160 Jonas Kapaun Roe Norton
171 Kellerman Law Erisman Desoto
189 Civils Lansing Strawn Holton
215 Espinosa Ottawa Disney Andover Central
275 Payne Paola Roberts Holton

Winners are
Furches
Shumate
Bahe
Fisher
Deshazer
Pipes
Garcia
Pyle
Elliot
Jonas
Erisman
Strawn
Disney
Payne

Wouldn't 4A be neither large or small but rather in between or middle?

According to acbulldog, 4A would be "Surburban Billy's", more along the lines of a goat herder. Just having some fun, no harm intended.

should be a sheep herder like that dumb Brokeback ridge (backdoor mountain) movie

That's a great point...this is why I am confused. If you are from a 321A school, according to an earlier thread, then you are a goat farmer (can you really plant a goat in the ground?). So my logic was a 4A would be a goat herder, 5A would be a goat roper and 6A would be a goat owner. But you are saying that sheep farming, herding, roping and owning are factors, as well? I have so much to learn...

Good topic, but I think you need to do a little more research before making your matchups!

For example you have Pipes(Win) v. Ellison(Col) at 135lbs. Pipes is a good wrestler but 3 wrestlers from big schools finished ahead of him at Derby. You also have Bird(Turn) that should be in there ahead of him.

135lbs. (Derby results)
1. T. Koehn, Pittsburg, def. Price, South, 10-5;
3. McDonald, Carroll, def. Pipes, Winfield, 9-4.

You have Sommers(Law) at 125lbs. and he wrestles at 130lbs.

Shumate at 112lbs., He wrestles at 125lbs.

You dont't have a 119lber. from a big school?
I think Ely(Lev) would be an obvious choice and a certain win!


It looks to me like the big schools would totaly dominate if we are using all grade levels!!!!

He also has Loos BC at 152 and Beard finished ahead of him at Derby also.

Kenny Livengood from BVN is at 119. Didn't he beat the Goodland kid at Derby??

I think Roberts would beat Payne

I do not think that Roberts would beat Payne. We saw Roberts this last weekend at the Holton Tournament. He is good but not that good. He lost in the finals to a kid that is ranked forth in 5A that beat our kid in the semis in sudden death. I am sure that it would be a good match and I could be wrong.

And neither one would beat Jessen.

roe would win

Yea, Bahe over Madden thats a dumb pick...win madden did beat bahe at the Goodland Classic and about pinned him...Madden Controled the whole match from the begining

Isn't Grape @145 for Lansing? I belive that Sean Flynn is @140.

please make your own

Fantasy dual big (6a,5a) vs little (4a, 321a).

i picked the wrestlers based off rankings for the most part.

103. furches v cox cox 5-3: 0-3
112. caldwell v rein caldwell pin 3rd: 6-3
119. livengood v madden madden 9-7 OT: 6-6
125. shumate v fisher shumate 5-0: 9-6
130. deshazer v baker deshazer 10-2: 14-6
135. koehn v llyod llyod 4-2: 13-9
140. hentzen v garcia garcia 13-3: 13-13
145. grape v finely grape 7-2: 16-13
152. beard v elliott elliott 5-2: 16-16
160. jonas v roe jonas 2-1 2ot: 19-16
171. kellerman v erisman erisman 5-1: 19-19
189. whitehill v strawn strawn 3-1 ot: 19-22
215. edison v disney disney 6-3: 19-25
275. jessen v roberts? jessen pin 1st: 25-25

it's a tie: 25-25

comes down to a tie breaker.

big schools win becasue caldwell and jessen pick up the pins.

Kyle Grape for Lansing is at 145, not 140.