Phippen, I do agree with your comments in principle about OSU from the top position. But do you realize that 10 NCAA finals matches there was not a single nearfall? Jesse Jantzen was the most recent example of really dominant top guy but this is the exception not the rule. Neutral decides the outcome of most matches and I'm going to keep harping on that until we get it accepted by the KS wrestling intelligentsia. They've got it wrong.