Gutwrench,

First of all, my best friend's name is in the wrestling Hall of Fame in Stillwater, and he never even wrestled in college, so being a D1 champ, coach, or AA is not a requirement for your name to be in the hall.

2nd- I agree with what Gibby said in support of Klemm. It doesn't matter what he did as a competitor, but as a coach- and I am certain that he was ONE contributor to the success of his former wrestlers.

3rd- I again ask the question, what have you done to solve this issue, besides posting here? Get involved with the athletes and work to get the change you would like to see.

4th- ACbulldog, Oak Park would have beat any team in the State of Kansas. I personally saw every team state champ wrestle this year, and no single team from Kansas would have given them a run. They were very impressive, especially from their feet (and they were missing 2 varsity wrestlers at Baldwin).

My only issue with you gutwrench is the fact that you lump all Kansas coaches/officials together and then degrade them. All you talk about is D1's, but the fact is the vast majority of our wrestlers are never going to attain that level of wrestling. We do the best we can for the wrestlers we have (because we are here for the athletes). Until you come coach at the High School level and try to get kids who have never wrestled before ready for varsity in 2-3 years I don't think you have much room for criticism. And if you can do better, do it.


Any fool can criticize, complain, and condemn- and most do.