I think Mr. Hinderliter have hit on a solution that people should be able to live with. I would agree that if you have a second year wrestler that is seeing some degree of success, and I would call placing regularly 3rd or 4th in an 8 man bracket successful, if they feel the need to participate in novice tournaments, let them wrestle up in age or weight. I can't see what it would benefit any wrestler to meet and beat the same wrestlers Sunday after Sunday. My commments about the wrestler from the Vikings team was just that my wrestler meets him week after week and has gotten very discouraged knowing that he is going to be beaten week after week. At first, he thought he had a chance, but after having several advance moves thrown on him (lundy, cross body ride, etc. . .) he knows he is going to get beat and I believe that is why the Viking kid was able to pin him this last weekend. I know there are other coaches and parents out there that can see this is a problem and I think it would be well worth it if there were some novice guidelines in place.