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#58547 12/11/04 06:07 PM
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anybody got em? did jordan and Pfannenstiel wrestle?


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#58548 12/11/04 06:31 PM
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43rd Clay Center Invitational

Clay Center 168
Norton 160.5
Abilene 155
Andale 104.5
Beloit 95
Salina South 77.5
Junction City 75.5
Basehor Linwood 23.5
Ellsworth 18
Salina Central 18


103 Matt Rein Ab wbmd 14-1 Keiswetter Nt
Gile CC wbd 6-2 Stroot Andale
112 Madden Nt wbd 3-0 Fisher Andale
Peterson AB wbd 2-1 OT Kozlowski JC
119 Broeckleman Nt wbf 1:49 Davis BL
Calhoon Be wbf 3:48 Davidson Ab
125 Dawson Ab wbmd 9-1 Dreiling SS
Thoman Andale wbd 7-1 Mann Nt
130 Mancuso JC wbd 11-8 Orozco El
Nothern SS wbd 4-2 OT Esterl Be
135 Harding Nt wbd 9-2 Kolterman CC
Dill Injury Default Hollis SS
140 Eck Andale wbd 6-2 Jordan Be
Lund CC wbd 4-2 Peterson Ab
145 Grater CC wbd 1-0 Schroeder Andale
Jenne Ab wbd 3-0 Van Eaton Nt
152 Roe Nt wbd 3-2 Allen CC
Hyman Be wbd 7-5 Hoover SS
160 Taplin Ab wbf 3:31 Rush CC
Newell Be wbmd 13-5 Lacer JC
171 Spexarth Andale wbd 3-1 OT Wright Be
Marrs CC wbf 3:42 Stanley Nt
189 Pietrzyk SS wbf 2:29 Boyer CC
Tech Ab wbf 4:50 Scheer Andale
215 Marrs CC wbf 2:28 Bowyer JC
Hillenbrand Nt Injury Default Schneider Ab
275 Sprigg Nt wbd 11-5 Madison SC
Nonamaker Ab wbd 1-1 2OT Stevens CC

Outstanding Wrestler: Mike Mancuso JC

#58549 12/11/04 06:37 PM
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what happened to Pfannenstiel of norton at 140?


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#58550 12/11/04 07:06 PM
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Looks like Grater had a pretty close match. Its still early but I am somewhat surprised at that score! Also am curious about Pfannenstiel.

#58551 12/11/04 07:35 PM
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luke was sick

#58552 12/11/04 09:10 PM
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Grater had a good challenge in the finals...I think that the Salina Central freshman Heavyweight could easily be the best freshman heavyweight in the state! He lateraled Sprigg and made a tough match out of it.


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#58553 12/11/04 09:34 PM
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Judd Schroeder from Andale who wrestled Danny Grater in the finals is a cousin to Zach Roberson, Cody Garcia, and the Metzler's from Newton.

Did Blake Fisher from Andale not wrestle at 119 lbs.?

Was the Fisher at 112 lbs. Blake's talented younger brother Brent?


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#58554 12/11/04 09:38 PM
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Blake was taking his ACT test today. The 112 lber for Andale was Brent, his younger brother.

#58555 12/11/04 10:51 PM
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I agree about Elijah Madison from Salina Central @ 275. He is a very talented athlete and will win state a number of times. WOW!!!! Only a freshman.

#58556 12/12/04 01:16 PM
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is jasen gragg wrestling for salina central

#58557 12/12/04 03:52 PM
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hell yeah clay center. good job kickin *** at our own tournament. good luck with the rest of the season. ill be watchin overseas.


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#58558 12/12/04 04:41 PM
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Wow, those are some interesting results!!

Mr. Schroeder has been beaten a number of times by Marvio Tishausher from Abilene who is not wrestling this year for some reason I do not know. But to think that a Judd whom I know is an extremly talented wrestler could stay that close to Danny surprises me. It makes me wonder how well Marvio would have done this year as a freshman.

Elijah Madison practiced with the Abilene Kids club the last couple of years, I knew he was going to be good coming in.

I wish Dawson could have bumped up and wrestled Mancuso, those two have a past with each other, a rematch would have been good to see.

Congratulations are in order for Clay Center, and of course to Abilene. The season is a long way from over, I still look to see both teams place in the top 3 at state this year.


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#58559 12/12/04 09:16 PM
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Trail, Abeline, Clay, Goodland..... looks like a barn burner state coming. This year in 4a I don't think anyone will have 13 wrestling and win without a champion. I think the team with the big power wins this year. Abeline and clay look good, but Trail and Goodland do, too. too bad Norton isn't 4a-- I don't see a lot of competition for them this year at 123.

#58560 12/12/04 10:21 PM
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sainty looks tough in 321A which harkens back to the days of an intense sainty/norton rivalray in the coach durram days where duel confrontations between the two would often lead to fist fights in the stands! it will be interesting to see how this year plays out


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#58561 12/13/04 01:57 AM
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Abilene, SFT, and Clay will all be eliminating key wrestlers off each others team at the same regional! Goodland and Colby will be out west with Scott City. I think this year's surprise team in 4a will be Andale. They had a pretty good showing at Clay Center in 4th place and also placed 2nd the week before at another tournament. They did well without having some key parts of their team there!

Also Junction actually had 73.5pts to finish 7th! Aren't they supposed to be #9 in 6a?


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#58562 12/13/04 03:18 AM
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Those days of Sainty and Norton were stuff of legend, Jake Durham and Pudge Wilson could both get their guys up and likely there should have been double security at some of those duals. I would really like to see St. Francis get a team championship as they have at least one in every decade since the 1930's, but Norton is just so deep that in my view the 'ol Indians had better get some more arrows in the quiver. Back in the day depth didn't count for so much because Atwood, Oakley, Oberlin, and (way back) Goodland and Colby all had guys in the championship finals and sometimes 4 or 5 guys could win a title. Not so anymore-- I believe that the winning 123a team will have 4 to 5 guys going for first, and 3 or 4 in the consolation, maybe
more. Clay center proved that Norton can be beaten at a tourney, but if you water both teams down with a regional the week before and everyone is healthy, I think Norton wins. Tough to say though, this might be Clay's year. As for Andale in 4a, Swayz could be right-- as odd man out regionalwise, they stand to fill a lot of weights at state to go with the 3 or 4 power guys they have and if they all score, who knows? I think that has happened before in 4a!

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Aaron,
Could we please not turn every thread into a discussion of each classes strength? I am from Oakley and admittedly have a bias for the smaller classes, but I coach at Junction City. You talk about our #9 ranking...are we? At this point I would say no, because as you fail to say in your haste to bash us, we are without our 119, 152, 189, and 275. Would that have made a difference in our score, I believe so. The point is there are always circumstances that all fans are not aware of. These rankings have no way of taking all of these factors into account, and ultimately its how you end the season that matters.
Your interest in Junction City is also interesting to me. When we lost Daniel Stevens you were quick to start a thread on that, and now in a thread about the Clay Center Invite, you have chosen to turn it again toward us. I never post angry threads, but here's a start....4a is an awesome class, but before you come on here bragging about it's superiority, your school might want to learn to COMPETE in it rather that just participate!
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#58564 12/13/04 08:38 AM
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Daaaaaaang. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn.

That being said, I don't think Sweazy was trying to bash Junction City...but it was still a sweet burn on Chapman.

And with THAT being said, let ME now bash Junction City:

Manhattan rules. Junk Town drools.

#58565 12/13/04 09:51 AM
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Any specifics on the Eck and Jordan match?


Do something...act stupid.
#58566 12/13/04 10:53 AM
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Pete Eck looked pretty impressive. He should do well this year. He was the number 4 seed in the tourny and beat Lund in the semi's 5-2.

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