Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School who would you pick?

Another name that you have left off the list is Bancroft, he was a two-timer and if you recall beat Page in the finals last year.

I don't know why everybody brings up Blake Sieler's name he is terrible.

first of all crow seiler is way better than hemmerling becuase he beat zach bad at the newton tourney, plus whoever said hemmerling is the best becuase he is a junior is crazy because lattimer as a junior would kill anyone on that list.

Speer.

Crow, how can you say an undefeated state champion is terrible? The only points scored on Seiler the entire year were escapes. He was never turned, taken down, or reversed. In my book that makes you a little better than terrible.

You forget Crow, the last time you saw Seiler wrestle was his sophmore year. He qualified for state after only wrestling for two years, that has to say something for his ability. I don't think that you are really in a position to call anyone a terrible wrestler. I think his record, his stats, and his state championship speak to his ability and I would think that everyone on here would have to agree that he is a far cry from terrible. After wrestling two years at Labette County you think you can take him? I doubt it. You were good, but not that good.

i would have to agree with JCrow......Seiler is terrible. I watched Jalon Crowley pin him in 40 sec. at regionals once!

jumbo sport> I can guarantee you that I would beat Blake by at least a major decision.The only reason that everybody thinks that he is such a stud is because he only wrestled people that were below average wrestlers. In my opinion high school wrestling has gone way done in the past two years.In every class, not just 5a.And by the way, if you ever want to see him get whipped have him wrestle somebody decent.

By the way, I coached that match that Lattimer beat Phillip (that is his first name, not Psycho) Walker and he beat him with a pulled finger call in the third period. That aint exactly running through the weight. Lattimer was a good one but there are a bunch of those.

how can you say that sieler has not wrestled anyone descent? He wrestled Hemmerling who destroyed Ian Bork. And Ian Bork is a freestyle all-american.

Well of course high school wrestling has gone down since you left crow, how can high school wrestling be the same without you? Everyone knows to be somebody in high school wrestling you have to beat an Ark City kid. Until you can do that, you are the worst thing that stepped foot on a mat.

Jumbo sport that is ridiculous to even think that Seiler would even come close to beating Jalon, even with the weight advantage you're talikng about a whole other level completely. Jalon is a two time national qualifier. It wouldn't even be worth my time to watch. By the way I think Speer would be my choice from this list. With Lattimer a very close second. I would have loved to see an in shape Lattimer wrestle Speer. Those two are definitely a step above the rest.

Cody Carrillo

Jalon you are soundin real cocky on here, I've seen you wrestle plenty of times and you were really nothin special to me, you did lose to lattimer and threw a hissy fit when you lost which got you disqualified from state remember? and whoever said lattimer is a close second to speer is crazy, I think as a junior lattimer would beat speer at least 6-1 maybe worse I also thing philip "the psycho" walker would have beat speer.

It makes more sense to me that wrestling as a whole has fallen this far in the past two years then for Blake Seiler to improve as an individual wrestler. Oh wait, no it doesn't. If Seiler was pinned in 40 seconds at regionals it would have been his freshmen or sophmore year which were his first and second years of wrestling. I think anyone who starts wrestling his freshmen year and develops to the point where he can dominate 215 like he did this year is impressive to me. Yes, I said dominate. Crowley, how is D-1 wrestling going for you this year? Who are you wrestling for anyways? Seiler has had several D-1 offers for both football and wrestling. I guess D-1 wrestling has gone downhill in the past two years too. Lord that's pretty

I have been reading some of these things about 215 and alot of the same people are talkin about tad greer from eldorado, I don't know why becuase that kid is horrible I wrestled him when I was a senior and killed him if I remember correctly he was killed by everyone in the leauge. Plus I have been seeing alot of posts from jalon crowley who is one of the best 189 pounders I have seen, I would love to see a match between him and seiler I think it would be a good one.

speer easily and yes he did beat lattimer in the east/west tourny last year the score was 4-1 or something bust speer was in control the whole time

I watched the match between speer and lattimer and speer was not in control the whole way, he only got ahead because lattimer went for a shot and slipped which gave speer a take down and back points, the lattimer got a throw which was called out of bounds by the ref but it should have at least been 2 points, and after that point speer was in trouble several other times where he controlled by fleeing the mat.

.....and was it too cold? or too hot? or too windy? or too calm? Regardless of the excuses, who won the only head-to-head match - Speer or Lattimer? Speer did, so I think he would have to get the nod here.

Jalon Crowley "who is one of the best 189 pounders I have seen," you've got to be kidding. Nothing against Crowley, he did finish runner up his junior year and champ his senior year, but one of the best-not a chance. He was far from terrible, but even farther from the best. You want to talk about someone who benefitted from a weak weight his senior year, Crowley is the one that takes that prize!!

In case anyone was wondering, Crowley and Seiler never wrestled in regionals two years ago (Crowley's senior and Blake's sophmore years). They were on opposite sides of the bracket. Seiler was beat by a kid from Valley Center. He was never pinned in 40 seconds at any regional. He lost a close match with the Valley kid and finished third, then won his last two. Just thought I'd straighten that out for those keeping score.