More traditional wrestling powers there, more family traditions, bigger deal to them all year round, have worked more in other areas farms etc,. different style, all those things. The difference just isn't as much as you guys like to act like it is. There are about seven or eight really premium wrestlers in this state and about half of those are back in the east right now. The West has more depth of talent and I still think that is because they care about it a little bit more but that is continually changing and the gap is vastly reduced from where it used to be. If you look at KC, most of those programs do not have consistent feeder programs but they still do ok anyway. You can say that total domination thing all you want but we never felt like we went anywhere where we got totally dominated either in the 80's at Schlagle or the 90's at Wyandotte. We were about as far east as it can get and not be in Missouri. It is harder for those programs to sustain anything though without any feeder.