Kansas Wrestling Forums General Discussion High School Best heavyweight wrestler ever

Both Hemmerlings wrestled for Hutch. Dwight Hemmerling, the HWT, is the father of Zach Hemmerling, who is the defending 6A State Champion at 215.

Well I called around to a few people and Lon Broke his arm his senior year so I guess I would grudgingly conceed. By the way I kept both feet on the floor because it gave me better balance and lasting power. Course Woof had both of those going for him in that way also. He was very accomplished in that arena. lol

By the way he always had that silly grin on his face even when Hazzle broke his leg. Who are you?

Ok here is the scoop on Lonnie Austin straight from the horses mouth (Dean Roedel) his coach and mine and a wonderful man. Lon was in fact State Champion in 64 as a junior. He never lost to Humphrey and beat him twice, and weight 214 pounds at the state tourney. His Junior year he cut down to 180 (you are correct sir he said puking in the trash basket) trying to win two state championships at two different classes. He won the district, went to the regional and contracted the measles. He tried to wrestle in the semi's and was ahead 9-2 in the second period when he passed out and Dean defaulted him out of the tourney. He had an enlarged heart and the doctors and Dean would not allow him to continue. I stand humble before you in my shame and resignation. NOW WHO ARE YOU LOL!

I meant to type his senior year he cut down to 180 but in my defeated stupor I misstyped. sorry

westfahl, just get out of the old school allready. You must be a brother or a good friend of one of these individuals you are talking about, or maybe it is you trying to get back to the good old days. Boyle is the best heavywight kansas has ever seen thats all there is to it!!

You know it is funny, I just quit coaching two years ago after about 25 years and I guess the difference in you and me is I've seen a few more than you have. If you go up to the top I listed Boyle in the group that I picked, I am just not narrow minded enough to think that one or the other of them invented the weight. Just because you didn't see them don't mean they couldn't do it. It really wasn't that long ago when you figure the sport has been going for about 2000 years or so. I tend not to live in one era just because it is the one that I currently reside in. There's been a lot of good ones in this state and they qualify by what they did on the mat not by whether or not you personally saw them do it. Hey you didn't get a chance to see those guys, thats your loss. I did, and I know what I saw. I've seen a few of them in my time. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, if mine doesn't agree with yours then ..... well you know what you can do with that don't you.

The other difference in me and you is that I am not afraid to put my name on what I think.

I watch Boyle for 3 yrs,,he looked like a literal superman wrestling boys. As a freshman noseguard at Wyoming he was so impressive, he was slowed by knee injuries throughout his football career. The Parks match his Sr year was so **** impressive. Kansas has seen a lot of good heavies--hard to list out, but imagine Boyle is the best this old coach has ever seen

my name is jason marsh and i'm not afraid to say who i am and i don't reall care who you are i know who ksu67 is and i know he is one of the best heavy's i have ever seen period.

Ah there is another difference in us, I did care who you were. I am sorry if my opinion does not agree with yours. I didn't realize it had to. I was under the assumption that everyone was entitled to one. I still think that. You enjoy yourself here and feel free to be beligerant all you want its free here.

You K-Staters are a little edgy up there is it cold there or what?

I know this covers more than just one wrestler, but from '85-'86 Chanute had the heavyweight champion each year, and by 4 different guys! '85 was Dave Gossett, '86 was Sonny Manley (who won 185 in '85), '87 was Dan Smedra, and '88 was Todd Brandon. Out of the 4 I believe Manley to be the best. He went on to wrestle at Nebraska and was the '89 Big Eight conference champ, and placed 4th nationally that same year. Makes you think that Smedra, and Brandon could have both been state champs at least twice if not for wrestling behind Manley. But as far as the best heavyweight I would have throw Sonny Manley in the mix.

Those Chanute kids were tough I forgot about them. I will tell you another couple of good ones were at Harmon in Frank McClenton and David Curtis. Frank won two state championships and pinned all but one wrestler in those two years of state tourneys in the first period. They were both really good. Frank was the last of the big boys at 335.

Tony Lewis is one of the best heavyweight wrestlers in the state of kansas. All of the heavyweights outweigh him by at least 30lbs.

I do believe that Boyle was probably one of the greatest athletes and big men in the game. But I believe one great heavyweight has been left off of this list. Jerry Corner, from Wichita West and then Nebraska-Omaha was definately a quality HWT. One thing he has on Boyle is he went on to wrestle in college and earn all-american honors for UNO. Two very quality HWT's though I might add.

God Bless

Michael R. Church

i had the opportunity to be an assistant coach for the 1996 cadet national team, most likely as a practice dummy for boyle and alex haines from colby. i would agree with everything that has been said about jeff; unbelivable speed, strength, and all around good human being. i think it is important that there are a few other big men recognized as kieth blaske from onaga who went on to have a very successful career at fort hays state and jerry corner from wichita west who wrestled for nebraska-omaha. jeremiah beltran from olathe south, who wrestled for ohio (and i'm not sure what happened to him this season?) was also another terrific big man.

there are times when i am watching the heavyweight matches that i just shake my head and wonder what ever happened to big men who shot, or who would be really quick and technically solid. the leaning and stalling that occurs in heavyweight matches is disturbing at best. i am sad that adam vanegas had his injury this weekend because he reminded me a lot of the heavyweights of the past. he has the throwback skills of the heavyweights of about 10 years ago, with the speed and talent to do some pretty special things. he'll do very well as a college football player.

Being a follower of heavyweights I can put a few names on there. I always heard about J.D Armstrong from Liberal as being a stud.Ulysses had some great heavyweights like Ernest Gallegos, Ron Walker, Wes Walker, Tony Lewis. Without a doubt, Jeff Boyle from Norton and also Derek Brai and Lance Lewis from Scott City. Jerry Corner is another great heavy chevy I can think of.

Jeff Boyle has my vote. He is a stud all the way. Hard nosed. Tony Lewis for 2003 though. Heck I would vote Boyle or Lewis for President!

J.D. was a 167 pounder and yes he was a stud. Strongest person I have ever met, but not a HWT.