tksnks, I echo your thoughts. Everyone involved with wrestling knows that Ark city was and stil lis a great team. However there have been several years when they came into the state tournament with dual loses and won it. How would they have faired in 1998 & 1999 in 4A honestly I don't think they would have won it there. 5A is notorious for being the easiest class to compete in, and aside from Goddard, and more recently Bishop Carroll and Kapaun I see no other competition coming out of that class. One has to wonder why a team wins so many titles? Is it maybe becuase Ark City is the only real good team in 5A I think it is